Discussion: CNN Anchor Chokes Up As Father Reads Vet's Suicide Note

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I wish the new VA Secretary a quick confirmation and a really stiff new broom.

Fuck you, George Bush.

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I think you forgot Dick Cheney

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“You don’t go to war with the VA you wish you had…”

  • paraphrased a little, but let’s not forget to fuck Donald either.
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Gee, I wonder if CNN is going to spend a million times more air time getting to the bottom of this than they did the Pentagon Generals for hire CNN propaganda program? Which ironically is directly tied to huge case load currently plaguing the VA system. I’m guessing not.

“Give sorrow words; the grief that does not speak knits up the o-er wrought heart and bids it break.”

― Wm. Shakespeare

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Just signed in so I could add Cheney. Donald Rumsfeld too.

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Can we suggest, those who use militarism as a belief, and went into these conflicts as volunteers, whether to settle some rah, fucking rah, score or, simply to rise up for a GI Bill education shoulder some
personal responsibility when ending up AFU?

Yes, this is pathetic, agreed, but where is the line for self serving and self defense?

Some of us still deal with PTSD issues from previous conflicts and these family members survive. I look at the legions of WW2 vets, who had no logical fall back for ‘shell shock’, never wished to speak to that, and came out after Spielberg’s Saving Private Ryan.

Lest we forget that civilian mercenarie$ and open ended over billing contractor$ are still in theater, as the GOP further hinders real time VA/DOD monetary support (austerity) in the name of a disproven theory (Excel sheet error) wasting millions more money than the aggregate VA/DOD budget on bases which will be scrapped once we leave, or power plants that will also be scrapped, planes, lobbyist systems and weapons the command doesn’t want and so on.

So accountability, yes, human frailty demands compassion but, feeding on patriotic vitriol is also a sickness societally, and THAT is the elephant/donkey in the room.

#X800,000-1,300,000!

http://web.mit.edu/humancostiraq/HOW%20MANY%20DIED,%20BUSH.html

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Which means s/he’ll get neither. All the GOTPers are gonna want to hear is, “Let’s let PRIVATE INDUSTRY handle it!”

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And Donald Rumsfeld, and Karl Rove, and every other warmonger who assured us Iraq would be a cakewalk.

And a lot of others in Congress (House and Senate)

Veterans should not have to wait months for health care. They shouldn’t have to fight bureaucracy to get traumatic brain injury, PTSD, agent orange, agent blue (defoliants used in Vietnam) contamination and a host of other conditions caused by war recognized as conditions that require treatment. Shinseki didn’t cause the problems in the VA. Neither did Obama.

Among others

I hope the new Secretary is a military veteran who has seen combat and knows the problems of veterans.

While I am glad that the tragic issue of vet suicide is getting some media attention finally, too bad it took a “scandal” and Shinseki’s blood in the water for CNN to suddenly give two shits about the vets who came back.

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this is an obviously horrible tragedy, but i’m not sure fixes in the system could have prevented it. specifically the article sites traumatic brain injury which is akin to the chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) currently plaguing the NFL.

“I think you forgot Dick Cheney.”

And you also forgot Barack Obama. This soldier would still be alive today if the president had ended this totally unnecessary war when he came into office.

Cheap emotionalism and posturing is not new to cable ‘nooz’ but devoting time to veteran issues over the last 14 years has been obscenely rare. Recent cheap talk of privatizing the VA by various usual winger suspects harkens back dreams of a corporatized bureaucracy early in the Bush II Interregnum and then when General Shinseki contradicted Cheney’s low-balled, corporate-heavy Iraq invasion troop demands…

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