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Its to be expected that sheâs saying what she thinks we want to hear. But I sure donât want to hear that. I donât want her or any of our dear leaders to draw us further down the rabbit hole. Iâve been resigned to voting for her but does she really have to make me feel nauseous for doing so?
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I thought it was a very good appearance for Mrs. CâŚ
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Thatâs all I needed to hear. Iâll vote for her if I have to in November, but from now on, Iâm a Bernie supporter.
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She needs a reality check from us â not complacency nor sycophancy. I want to hear what Obama has to say tonight.
I certainly donât know the best ways to counter Daesh over time. But I have a measure of confidence in Clinton as a serious person whoâd be vastly better than any current active Republican. Thatâs really all I need to know. She has an offputting habit of fairly obviously triangulating on things like this. Obama has always been suaver about that. But if any American politician even hinted at the truthâthat Western societies will have to face the threat of terrorism for a long time to come, and they have to accept that it canât all be preventedâthat politician would have to find a new line of work.
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It was a generalization IMO.
Actually sheâs saying what uncommitted voters likely need to hear-- for them to consider voting for her.
That is her goal at present-- to be elected to the position where she can address the situation as POTUS.
Do we really need specifics from candidates now?
When itâs actually the actions of BHO that will be the deciding factor for the next 11 months?
Those actions which will likely be the ones that either (D)-candidate-cum-POTUSâ
will then have to adopt for the near-term following inauguration?
Itâs not realistic to expect anything other than a response such as the one given.
Though still deeper than the 'kill âem allâ mindset of the RWNJs running.
jw1
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Yep. Thatâs about it.
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Politically she is in a no win situation. She will say what she has to say, and right now it isnât much different from Obamaâs approach, including a ground war; albeit with a âlimitedâ number of troops.
Excellent!
So who do YOU want in the Oval Office for the next 8 years? Hillary Clinton or any damned one of the multitude running for the Republican nomination?
Whether youâre talking national security, or fiscal policy, or employment, or the environment, or any and every other issue in the election, thereâs really only one choice.
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Letâs face it, President Obama made a big mistake and looked like a total idiot when he said we didnât know if the attack was related to terriorism.
I donât have a college degree but the minute I heard there was an argument at the party, one person left and came back with others and started shooting up the place, I KNEW this was no workplace dispute but terrorism. That
it was PLANNED!!!
Yes, Hilary is correct, we are not winning the fight against ISIS, but how do we get a head of them without sacrificing the lives of our soldiers?
The words of the President of the United States carry infinitely more weight than yours or mine or any poster on the internet and he has to be careful what he says. His FBI director was unwilling to call it terrorism until Friday. Would you have the President get in front of him? I think that would be extremely bad policy.
I was interested to see her comment, which no one here has noted, to âfight them on the internetâ. That may be far and away the most important. These guys and many we have seen lately never set foot in Syria. They were radicalized on line. And that needs to be addressed. Both with counter webites, cyber attacks to take down ISIS and, yes, blocking access to certain sites. France is doing that and they have similar constitutional protections as the US. The truth is that the First Amendment doesnât protect murder. We block child porn sites (as we should); we can block ISIS sites.
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Daesh represents an extremely complex problem for which their is no easy solutions. And thatâs something the general American public has never comfortably accepted. They donât want to hear itâs going to take years and that weâll suffer some losses along the way, even if thatâs the truth.
Hence the success of Donald Trump. Heâs the strongman in whom they place their fears hoping heâll keep them safe. It the God of the Bible wonât do it, maybe Donald will.
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I donât either, but catering to the militaristic tendencies is something she has too apparent an ease with. I will vote for her because there is no other choice really, and I fully expected she would go hawkish, but it still upsets me. Iâd just read that Boston Globe article and it hit the nail on the head for me what bugs me about her and the people she surrounds herself with that they always look at the problem in domestic political terms first and wonât challenge her.
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There was a line from the film âMidwayâ in which Robert Mitchum (playing Bull Halsey) says to Glenn Ford (playing Ray Spruance):
âYou go to sea, find Yamamoto and chew his ass.â
What do we have to do?
âWe prepare, GOTV and see to it that a Democrat is in the White House with a Congress he/she can work withâ
Thatâs all there is to it. (By the way, that was last sentence of Mitchumâs Pep Talk).
The contrasts between the two parties make anything else unacceptable.
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Blocking a site would seem less productive than tracking all the siteâs regular visitors; but either is more easily said than done because âprivacy advocatesâ like Snowden support services like Tor, which would both thwart efforts to block the site and, as itâs primary function, prevent the government from knowing who visits the site.
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How can we win the fight on Isis when at every turn you got US agitators who speak out in the press on a daily basis, how they are going to kick isisâ ass every single dayâŚand in fact, they have NO plan in their minds on how to best beat IsisâŚ
In fact, it makes me wonder just how are the US agitators being compensated to rile up the hatred atmosphere here in America as it relates to the billions of Muslims in the world?
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Yes on the internet idea Hillary, but fight them in the air and on the ground ONLY when it is possible to inflict major damage to them. Fighter jets and bombers cost our military anywhere from $24,000.00 per hour to over forty thousand dollars an hour to operate. Itâs stupid to waste this kind of money bombing empty training camps and meaningless targets. Even an armed drone cost a whopping seventeen thousand an hour to fly. A cruise missile cost 1.59 million. Link to costs: http://www.ibtimes.com/us-airstrikes-syria-against-isis-may-cost-much-10-billion-1694475
ISIS can do more damage with an IED they build for less that a grand, a few suicide vests, and a couple grand worth of assault weapons. We need to fight them like Mossad fought the PLO. Smartly. You have to admire how they took out the terrorist with an exploding cell phone without hurting anyone else. The US, Russia, China, UK, and other world intelligence agencies are going to have to work together and defeat these people in the old school way. It wont be fast, it wonât have the visual impact of meaningless bombing runs, but it will be the only way to defeat these scum.
Since the beginning of the American-led air campaign against ISIS, the coalition has launched 8,000 airstrikes and dropped about 28,000 bombs on ISIS sites in Iraq and Syria. In other words, weâve been launching about 17 airstrikes and dropping 60 bombs per day. Every day. For over a year.
The defense contractors are the only ones happy with the results.
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Sheâs a sharp cookie. Besides the people of the US think she is the one best prepared to fight ISIS. So take that, Mr. Trump and blowhard phony armchair warriors in the GOP!
The GOP claims to be against terrorism and ISISâbut they wonât lift one little finger to stop these guys. Whereâs the AUMF from the GOP controlled Congress? Whereâs the stopping those on the terror watch list from obtaining guns? Theyâre evil and in bed with big oil and gun manufacturers. Hillary clearly is not! Go, Hilalry!
(Ever stop to think that the oil interests of Daesh / ISIL may be prompting the spectacular attacks just as the world is realizing that climate change is real and trying to do something about it?)
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