Discussion: Clinton Tells Campaign Staff: 'These Have Been Very, Very Tough Days'

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I think maybe watching Jesus Quintana at the bowling alley might be the solution for heartache.

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Very tough days. Happens when you lose. Especially when you were the odds-on favorite.

Now, where do we go from here?

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I am not certain any one leader can do it, or that we even know who that leader is yet. But with that Vichy sentiment 110%. No quarter.

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Late votes are slowly straggling in, but at this time the popular vote count stands at

Clinton 60,839,922 (47.8%)
Trump 60,265,858 (47.3%

She beat him by 574,064 and counting.

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I am not sure if fighting is the proper course. The divide in the country isn’t so much political as it is perceptions of reality. The typical Republican voter really believes crazy stuff, like sharia law is on the verge of becoming the law of the land, Obama was born in Kenya, and Clinton murders people. Fox News has brainwashed a lot of people and we are really up against a cult. If someone says the sky is chicken, should you get angry and fight? Or should you do what you can to either bring those people back to reality or work to prevent others from getting sucked into the abyss?

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Democrats have failed for decades to have in place a structure to win state legislative races, even though it is patently obvious that the power of legislators to set congressional districts is a very important element of political power–viz. the Republican gerrymanders that keep the House in their hands even as Democrats win the popular vote. In this, as in many other aspects of nuts-and-bolts politics, we Dems have had our clocks cleaned by conservatives willing to get down in the ditches and shovel.

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Especially when you won possibly 1.5 to 2 million more voters, which is what the final vote tally is projected to be. Not only that, but to have your campaign with this air of scandal over it despite having done absolutely nothing wrong, despite the fact that the other guy truly is a crook, a con man, a serial sex abuser, and possible racist. And to top it off her campaign endured unprecedented meddling from the FBI and a foreign bad actor.

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After we elected the black dude with the SCARY MOOOOSLIM name…I really didn’t expect so much backlash, given that half of the populace is themselves female.

But, by God, it really happened. All that’s left is the shame.

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Yes. There are way too many local races in which the incumbent is Republican and the Democrats offer NO candidate. There’s just no excuse for this.

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Hillary and Bill have always sailed really, really close to the wind. They may not have crossed the line into criminality, but they have done plenty of things (like speaking for big fees to investment bankers, then keeping the transcripts secret) that can fairly create suspicion.

Used to be that people running for President were–or tried to appear–like Caesar’s wife. Now it seems to be OK if they look like ward-heelers. When the public doesn’t accept that, it’s not the voters who deserve the blame.

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I find that very ironic- regardless of that guy’s history- that he uses stories to illustrate the “white working class” as “more than that man” and different than the black working class. How I mean by that is growing up here in the south, those “white working class” folks with their rebel flags and veiled hate constantly made fun of blacks as people on welfare looking for a handout from the government.

What are they besides whites that need welfare asking for something from the government?

I’m glad they’re getting their chance to feel the plight- they just need to realize the industries that lifted them up and pushed others down do not exist anymore and it is time once again to “earn” something. That may require changing the perception of education. Maybe we can all come to a similar place with each other and realize we are exactly the same.

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Agree. Thus the dilemma. If I stay and fight, what do I fight? Stupidity? Conspiracy theories? Go out and join the protesters, some of whom are just venting primal screams?

I’m 65. I’ve voted and worked in every election of my adult life. I’ve never encountered this level of hopelessness and utter bewilderment at the state of my fellow citizens. It’s as if half of them have devolved to some kind of primitive ogres that are incapable of rational thought. But I know that can’t be true. How do we come together after a fiasco like this?

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Please do climb outside of my head because that’s much of what I’ve been going through. I’m renewing mine and my father’s passports. I also plan to start drastically paring down my parents home and all the stuff they’ve accumulated. Fact is, no matter what happens, there needs to be an exit plan. Trump may surprise the hell out of all of us, but it’s worth being prepared.

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Yes. It happened and embarrassingly swiftly. Let there be NO question that America is a white man’s land.

Here’s to hoping that the next white man wakes the rest of us up. We need diversity in our leaders.

Another thing I’m not seeing so much talk on- how about the obvious liberal leanings on our down ballot choices and how they’re mostly passing? Clearly what the people want for themselves and what they’re forcing on others are on opposites.

Strange.

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It shouldn’t create suspicion. It never has before with any other pol or famous person. It only suddenly became suspicious when Sanders decided to use it as a cudgel. Taking speaking fees isn’t odd. Hell, in 2008, Colin Powell’s was the same as Clinton’s is now. This is yet another abject failure of our media. They know this. Just Google “speaking fees” and you’ll find lists of those who get the same, similar or more than the Clintons. The media knows this, they get speaking fees themselves. It was all a game to them. Take an accusation and run with it knowing full well it’s bullshit.

ETA: And you know who has the highest speaking fee-Donald J. Trump at $1.5 million. But the person who’ll probably garner the highest in history is one Barack Hussein Obama.

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Saw this and thought a chuckle was in order:

AN AIRPLANE WAS ABOUT TO CRASH. THERE WERE 4 PASSENGERS ON BOARD BUT ONLY 3 PARACHUTES:
The 1st passenger said, “I am Steph Curry, the best NBA basketball player. The warriors and my millions of fans need me, and I can’t afford to die.” So he took the 1st parachute and left the plane.
The 2nd passenger, Donald Trump said, “I am the newly elected US President, and I am the smartest President in American history, so my people don’t want me to die.” He took the 2nd parachute and jumped out of the plane.
The 3rd passenger, the Pope, said to the 4th passenger, a 10 year old schoolboy, “My son, I am old and don’t have many years left, you have more years ahead so I will sacrifice my life and let you have the last parachute.” The little boy said, “That’s okay Your Holiness, there’s a parachute left for you. America’s smartest President took my schoolbag.”

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Not so sure I agree. There are special rules for Clintons. RWNJ media outlets can invent wild and ridiculous “scandals” as they’ve done for 30 years, ever since Bill offended the sensibilities of the Arkansas millionaires, and the Clintons are automatically guilty until proven innocent.

There is no earthly way to defend yourself against the tsunami of slime and deception that has become the anti-Clinton cottage industry. Even the FBI felt obligated to investigate her based on rumors from a debunked screed and mean comments on Breitbart. To an alarming number of Americans, Bill and Hillary will always be criminals, just as Obama will always be a Kenyan Muslim.

No human on earth can meet the standards set for the Clintons.

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It’s not. They operate on a very different set of facts, and applying rational thought, arrive at very different conclusions.

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Wasn’t he great in that short scene. Like in Miller’s Crossing begging for his life. Great stuff.

ETA: Shut the fuck up Donnie.

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Yes I voted for her, but I will also continue to point out the arrogance, stupidity, and lack of foresight of completely avoidable gaffes that had her choose to:

  1. create an email server workaround that was unofficial, porous, and easy to attack by her many enemies.

  2. give high-honorarium speeches to Wall St. because of greed. Really, how much more money is needed? Or, better yet, donate the honorarium (less 20% for expenses) to Planned Parenthood or similar good causes that poke the eye of Wall St… Better politics.

  3. be connected to a Clinton Foundation that took money from foreigners while at the State Dept. At best, this confuses the foreigners who are used to the culture of bribery. At worst, this is easy to attack by her enemies.

  4. have better computer security at the DNC. Dumb.

  5. not have Howard Dean as head of the DNC. Dumb.

  6. not have Bernie Sanders as the VP pick. Dumb. Kaine is an empty suit.

  7. Bill Clinton’s very public talk with Loretta Lynch. Horrible optics. Make a phone call, you dunce.

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