I’ll bet, the majority of the nation has shifted their view on gay marriage or gay anything, just gay.
Why is Hillary different, Obama changed.
I’ve changed, if only to realize the plight of the gays, I don’t recall ever actually being against their rights.
And, I’ll bet you socialist dollars that Bernie has evolved in many ways on many subjects. This is as normal of a human process as aging. Getting wiser, it’s part of the package.
1 Like
As with health care the US lags far behind as more and more 1st world countries are providing free University education through usually Master Degrees.
I don’t agree with conflating anything Trump onto our candidates but I get the politics of it. Hillary wasn’t exactly appealing to the deep thinkers with that one, she was making a cheap point while not totally agreeing with Sanders.
I personally don’t have a problem with some expense for a college education, not the ridiculous plan that we have now but something that helps to afford the system without for profit gouging.
If a kid has to work some while getting an education, then they are actually learning two important things. The value of education and where they might end up without it and the initiative to work and pay your own way and what that effort brings.
I’m a drywaller originally and so was my father, there is nothing harder in the trades and that inspired me to grow and become a general contractor. My son as well as my nephews learned that they didn’t want to be drywallers by working with us, so they went to college and or chose work that they liked as opposed to had to do.
College isn’t the only way but it certainly doesn’t hurt and can only open the youthful mind up to many opportunities.
I served an apprenticeship and have made the most of it, I have no complaints but truthfully wish while looking back that I had gotten more education.
1 Like
Oh I agree a good education is needed.
I am not sure that our present system is providing that education in a cost effective manner.
When you say $8000 a semester is that is that room and board also? Should we pick up that tab too?
My kids have degrees and or are working on one or another. Their debts have been paid off and are moving on in their lives. I certainly did not have the money to pay for their education, so they have had to do it on their own. So I know it can be done.
I am not against public help, I just would like to talk about what is reasonable, and how to deliver this education; the present system seems out dated if you ask me.
How does a person from Smallsville USA afford the room and board to attend a school? How can you ask them to help pay for a student who lives in a big city with 3, 4 or more options for higher education, when their kids can not afford the room and board?
Certainly Trump’s supporters don’t think they should have to pay for them.
Of course she wouldn’t support Bernie’s plan his proposal would affect banks and loan servicers who are some of her biggest campaign donors not to mention she probably has associated investment’s as well.
1 Like
And those corporate tax cuts and the equivalent give-aways to the 0.01 in other ways amounts to American tax payers giving Trump’s kids free college and the kids of a large number of other wealthy free-loaders as well! Most Americans are not getting full value for the work they do and the taxes they pay because our American economy loses so much of its created wealth to untaxed and uninvested offshore/overseas hoarding. The college tuition money for America’s children is stashed away in secretive Cayman Island and Luxembourg strongboxes!
Except that trumps kids are grown but I get what you are saying.
$250 a semester in 1978 is $1,709.38 in 2015 money.
Still far short of typical state university tuition today of course.
Sorry, Ms. Goldwater Girl, bit there is a real simple answer for that to shut you up on this subject. The Answer? Restore the tax rate of pre-Reagan years and Mr. Trump will pay for his brats AND for several hundred more students. But being a DLC member, you are so inured to not taxing the wealthy and corporations that you never even consider raising taxes.
Sorry mr…whoever you are, but the President doesn’t make tax law, and even if that were the case, pre-Reagan tax rates aren’t coming back any time soon.
1 Like
To paraphrase what I thought was one of Sec. Clinton’s smarter statements, you don’t change hearts and minds. You change laws and allocations of resources. I think a free college education is a thoughtful, sensible, conservative idea. But you shouldn’t need a college degree to afford your own apartment. I think we’re already seeing diminishing returns from everyone just “knowing” you need a college education to get anywhere in life. I’d like to see laws changed and resources allocated so that anyone who works full time can afford their own apartment, regardless of education. Once that became the new conventional wisdom, the market would do a much better job sorting itself out.
1 Like