Discussion: Clinton: Sanders' Plan Would 'End All The Kinds Of Healthcare We Know.'

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You’re not helping, Hillary – yourself nor Democratic chances in the general election.

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At least she didn’t rant about Death Panels.

I guess.

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Why does Clinton think that using Republican attack lines is going to be effective in a Democratic primary? She’s exciting exactly zero people with this line of attack. And I consider myself a Clinton supporter though she’s not doing herself any favors with me right now.

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Me either.

In fact she’s pissing me off.

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Why? If Sanders has a plan that’s feasible, let’s hear it.

We don’t need promises or pie-in-the-sky rhetoric.

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The healthcare we know? You mean healthcare for profit? I say get rid of it, we can do better.

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Just like that? Get rid of it.

If only it were that easy.

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“It’s a bit concerning to me because it would basically end all the kinds of health care we know, Medicare, Medicaid, the CHIP program, children’s health insurance, TRICARE for the National Guard, military, Affordable Care Act exchange policies, employer-based policies,” Clinton said.

She says that like it’s a bad thing.

I don’t feel comfortable with this level of hyperbole. This feels very republican to me. I’m starting to remember why I disliked her when she ran against Obama. Why didn’t Liz Warren just fucking run? I’m in “Protect Obama’s Policies and we need a Dem to reshape Supreme Court for the next 20 years!” mode! Truthfully, I’m not enamored with Hillary or Bernie. I kinda sorta like O’Malley, but I think that;s mostly due to him being the inspiration for Tommy Carcetti. So, I’m basically going to the polls in November to vote for Barack Obama again…and don’t worry, I’ll do my duty as a Democrat and vote.

DAMN IT, SENATOR WARREN!!

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actually, ending the shitty healthcare currently available would be a good thing. (try finding a doctor that accepts medicaid - i’ve spent hours trying to help a friend who due to unemployment just signed up for it, and it’s been quite enlightening to see just how atrocious and limited those options are).
she’s being amazingly dishonest in misrepresenting sanders’ proposal. as he explained on hayes’ program last nite, yes, there would be a tax imposed on individuals to cover the cost of this policy. however, since there would be no deductibles families would have to cover, no monthly insurance payment, and whatever other fees people are currently responsible for, people would see considerable savings overall.
just wait until she has to answer for her advocacy of regime change in libya and syria, and the malignant forces unleashed due to those policies.

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Big story on the intercept about Hillary and the insurance companies. Interesting stuff. This is a great site, for the record, if you’re not already familiar with it. Glen Greenwald’s site.

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Even if she has some sort of point in there, somewhere, the statement sounds like he’s going to stop doctors from using thermometers and blood pressure monitors. We’ll be back to leeches! She’s really going after him on this issue, but I don’t think people can understand what she’s saying because it’s too vague.

But Sanders should get a statement out there–that it will be the same or better, that he favors an even bigger umbrella, that he’ll work with Congress, whatever.

Best argument that I have heard so far to vote for Sanders.

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Lest we forget, in 2008 it was against the “rules” to attack Democrats like HRC about healthcare.

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Must be Feeling The Bern, eh Hils?

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Who ever thought this was a good line of attack is an idiot. Then again this is getting reminiscent of '08 when her campaign went off the rails when her numbers started dipping.

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She didn’t hire that slob Mark Penn again, did she?

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My daughter was put on the medicaid expansion in Washington State when our family qualified for subsidy. I was really nervous about it – worried her care would be limited and substandard – and that we’d have difficulty finding providers. I was wrong to worry. Her regular pediatrician was in the network – and although we were sent to Children’s and University of Washington Medical Center for specialists, her care was exemplary. She was approved for a surgery I am certain a private company would have found a way to deny. I was also concerned that she could not she her regular dentist – but they sent us to the UW Dental School. And you know what – she received much better care there. They had all the new technology – electronic cleaning and x-rays and sealants and her wisdom tooth extraction was 100% covered. The wisdom teeth alone would have cost $4000 out of pocket without this program.

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Maybe they could debate it on stage. Oh wait. DWS made the next debate during the Super Bowl, didn’t she? Or is it at 4 a.m. on a Saturday?

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