Discussion: Clinton Dings Sanders In Debate: 'I Am Not A Single-Issue Candidate'

The corrupting influence of money in politics isn’t a “single-issue”. It’s the Rosetta stone to understanding pretty much every major hurdle to progressive change in this country. It’s a shame that she (and so many others) don’t understand that.

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You beat me too it. I was going to say he had two issues: Glass–Steagall and single payer. Even on those two, he’s not so good. Mixing investment and and commercial banking exacerbated the 1930’s depression and may worsen the next, but Clinton understands shadow banking, a different animal entirely, caused this recession. I’d like a single payer plan, but there’s no chance of getting one through Congress.

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Even if you could get it through congress, the change from one system to another in some quick manor would be incredibility destructive.

Wall Street paying Hillary $3750 per minute of her time allows her the luxury of dismissing the injustices done by our banking elite.

To her its all one issue with Bernie - he’s attacking the special interests, HER SOURCE OF INCOME- so she believes he is a single issue candidate.

Most Americans aren’t so well off to have such a singular view of the world.

Most Americans have a multifaceted life: How do I pay the mortgage and fix Lisa’s chipped front tooth? What do I forego, my medicine or the power bill? Why can’t I ever get ahead.

The economic issues reflect multifaceted domestic issues.

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It was shadow banking AND the ability of banks to gamble with our money that brought on the Great Recession. The banks were not required to hold greater reserves when they could count our money as part of their reserves. When their gamble in the housing sector based on bogus mortgages they created didn’t pay off, it was their reserves with our money guaranteeing them that was first to go.

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Destructive for the special interests. Constructive for restoring democracy.

Single issue? I guess Hillary never heard the old saying:

Money is the root of all evil.

Or maybe she just doesn’t understand what it means.

Or doesn’t want to.

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I an worried she offended Star Wars fans with the Star Trek tunic. :hushed:

Star Trek Tunic? I think I had a raincoat that color when I was in grade school.

Ah, yes, that. But contra Sanders, that’s a Dodd-Frank rather than a Glass–Steagall thing. I haven’t seen any actual argument against bringing back Glass–Steagall, just highly plausible claims that it wouldn’t have prevented the 2008 crisis.

PS. I’m guessing from from your use of “the Great Recession” that you’re a Krugman fan. That would be a good thing.

Not only would the change itself be incredibly destructive, but the politics and loss of political capital might well be even more so.

I’m under the vague (and I’m afraid not very well informed) impression that pro single payer wonks don’t think very highly of Sander’s plan.

Hillary to edge forward, you must make Bernie look “feeble”…when it came to foreign policy, the Bern appeared lost…totally lost. Bernie proved to me last night that he has very little interest in foreign issues and as a country we need to keep foreign policy on the forefront when electing federal candidates.

So put your big girl pants on and start chopping away, bit, by bit…

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When a Tea Party congress wants to change Obamacare, who would you trust more to hold the line against rolling it back, somebody with an desire to make it even better, or somebody who prides herself on being “pragmatic”.

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That’s why Presidents appoint a Secretary of State, so they can concentrate on domestic issues and their appointee can concentrate on foreign policy. It’s what Obama did with Hillary.

You don’t get it…Bernie showed no interest in speaking about foreign policy at all and to this voter that is very telling.

I think there’s a case to be made that you don’t beat the GOP, the Kochs, Karl Rove, et al by unilaterally disarming. But she didn’t make that case.

Otherwise, however, she turned the corner on the argument that Bernie has no reasonable path toward fulfilling any of his many promises.

He also created his own problem with the perception that he’s reliving the '60s.

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Don’t agree with this at all. Kissinger is a war criminal to many people. The fact that he didn’t call her out on this at the last debate meant it was more than appropriate to call her out this time around.

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Really? I thought he made a clear case that, while the breadth of his FP experience wasn’t Hillary’s, he could point to his judgement being better from their respective votes on going to war. He didn’t believe Bush and Cheney’s lies and she did.

He also pointed out that, unlike her, he gladly did not have a mentorship and take advice from Kissinger because his judgement was akin to a megalomaniacal psychopath in Cambodia.

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Her retort was hard to argue with: She’ll seek perspective on foreign policy decisions even from people she disagrees with. She was an anti-war activist precisely when Kissinger was wrecking Cambodia, and it’s not like Kissinger’s part of her inner circle.

It’s ironic that Sanders criticized her willingness to sit down with one of the nation’s most influential foreign policy architects in the same debate where he criticized her for saying eight years ago that she wouldn’t sit down without preconditions with foreign dictators.

We share the opinion that Kissinger has special place in Hell reserved for himself. But it seems to me that it narrows his appeal – especially among young and working class white voters – to rehash the Vietnam War.

And this is where we disagree. I don’t understand how it ‘narrows his appeal’ at all to young and working class white voters, who are already his natural constituents. Bringing up his feelings on Kissinger is not going to make Hillary more appealing to this group. If they don’t relate and don’t know who Kissinger is, then it’s not going to make him more or less appealing. Hillary was the one who name dropped Kissinger originally after all. For those that don’t know Kissinger and use the internet to find out who he is, they’d be far more likely to embrace Sanders and the common liberal view on Kissinger than the nuanced right wing view, because these are after all democratic primary voters.

If this were the general I could see how such a stance could narrow his appeal to right leaning independents who have a high opinion of Kissinger. But as it stands, it’s hard to understand your point.

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