I have no warm feelings towards Hamas, but using words like “stage managing” when referring to a conflict where 2,104 Palestinians died, including 1,462 civilians, of whom 495 were children and 253 women is in poor taste. I fully intend on voting for her, but I have no delusions of who I’m actually voting for. My future investments will be set to profit under a Hillary presidency, if she looks to win. I respect you, but we will never see eye to eye on Hillary’s foreign policy. Unfortunately, as long as there isn’t an equitable solution to the Palestinian conflict, there will never be peace in the Middle East. There will always be radicals on both sides. Going back to watching movies. Good day!
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You can take it however you like, but I see it as a smart move to outflank her opponent on an issue, or rather a host of issues, i.e. foreign policy and national security, where he is weak.
As a Bernie supporter (probably no secret to anyone who reads these threads), I pretty much agree with this. This letter on foreign policy doesn’t seem particularly “desperate” to me (her health care attack did, especially some of the sillier hyperbole). This seems more like the normal sort of thing any candidate would do to make the case for their experience and policy preferences compared to those of their opponent. Pretty standard stuff. I don’t necessarily agree with the thrust of the letter, but I don’t see anything particularly “desperate” about it as a tactic.
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well said, I’d add…her true foreign policy experience is executing the foreign policy of Obama, much of which she campaigned on in 08 as naive.
She was a fine and able SoS and a good democratic soldier while in the Obama administration.
I just think that both her foreign policy and domestic policy ideas are stale.
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I think we’re closer to seeing eye-to-eye than you suggest; as I said, I’m nearer to Obama than to Hillary. It’s just that she’s (far) nearer to Obama than to most Republicans, which I’d, admittedly, like to get you to realize. So I just pointed out that the two examples you pulled don’t show what you seem to think (the reporter’s question triggered her “organizing principle” answer; and the same human-rights organizations that rightly condemn Israel’s actions in Gaza also condemn Hamas’, yes, “stage management” of much of what happened, and happens, there). But I wholeheartedly agree about the prospects in the Middle East without that equitable solution (check my comment history, about Bibi and more); and the respect is mutual. Hope you have popcorn!
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I stand corrected. I never knew she ever looked that hot.
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I don’t believe that Hillary is just going to start wars for the fun of wars. That is always the knock on her. I call total bullshit!
She has two grandchildren living in this world now for one thing and she has witnessed the world at war for many years in a row now and seen President Obama deal with it in his way. She knows that diplomacy is the answer.
War hawk my ass.
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Yeah, like Obama was such a genius on foreign policy, having absolutely no experience in almost anything when he took over the nation (his operators took it over, he stood by, shaking with his Nobel Peace Prize in hand). If Obama the Ignorant doofus coward can rule the world, I think any of us can do at least as well as him and Hillary. Obviously, experience is irrelevant. The president makes no decisions. Obama has made none without the good sanctions of NSA and Mommy. Meanwhile, this is how Obama and Hillary created ISIS for their further enrichment:
http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/34700-focus-you-wont-like-it-but-heres-the-answer-to-isis.
Even for you, that was relentlessly stupid.
And please—go ahead and hold your breath, at least until the election is over.
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You have outdone your previous declamations of overweening stupidity with this one, Sparky.
The interwebs laugh at you—as do most of us here.
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As much as I admire Clinton, I’ve always felt Obama utilized Joe Biden for high-caliber foreign relations tours over Clinton during his first term. He already had strong connections and he was liked and trusted. I’ve never followed the “She’ll go down in history as one of our best Secretary’s of State” meme. She was good, but many were great. John Kerry has been showing us how it’s done.
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Even for you, that was relentlessly stupid.
And please—go ahead and hold your breath, at least until the election is over.
Ouch, an American fascist calling someone who sees the American war-machine for what it is as being “relentlessly stupid”. I’m sure he’s devastated.
The interwebs laugh at you—as do most of us here.
You are such a meanie. How is he going to cope with all the hate he is getting from the lapdogs of Obama, the great peace defender?
You do need a revolution when the American military industrial complex allows for the support of dictators, wars, destabilisation and the destruction of the rest of the world purely for its own benefit justifying it through pure tribalism. Hilary wants to get things done for her elite class at the expense of everyone else, most of all the non-whites outside of America that will pay for it with their lives. If you had the ability to get warm fuzzy feelings you may actually value the lives of coloured people.
Only a Hilary supporter can be stupid enough to think that getting establishment shills to write in her support is ‘a smart move to outflank her opponent’, then in all seriousness, and the same breath, utter the words that Bernie is weak on foreign policy and national security - a belief predicated on the idea that America is the defender of peace and democracy, in desperate need of “advanc[ing] our interests and values around the world”. What you characterise as weakness, is the possibility for non-white people to exist without the threat of American imperialism and colonialism looming over them. There’s nothing remotely smart about you filthy fascists. At least you’ve learned that attacking Bernie on National Healthcare is not such a smart move.
You thought wrongly.
How about “enable” wars started by others?
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She is closer to AIPAC than J-Street, by temperament and circle of associates.
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I believe she lacks that big-picture “vision thingy” to see that re-establishing normal relations with Iran, a populous non-Arab country that is nevertheless the protector of the Arab Shiite minority throughout the entire region regardless of borders, is the key factor to damping the open sectarian warfare now prevalent due to Saudi Arabia’s tacit backing of extremist sects.
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I believe that Hillary (and the “expert” opinion she listens to) won’t acknowledge that normalized relations between Israel and Iran, in conjunction with the US, is a better guarantee of Israel’s peaceful existence in the region and a practical, “livable” rapprochement to Israeli-Palestinean affairs. (This does mean Israel ending its ultra-Zionist maximalist dreams and policys, however, which would be a true blessing for most Israelis.)
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Unfortunately, Hillary does have a history of doing stupid shit in different areas of her public life; so there’s no guarantee that her foreign policy instincts and experience will result in better outcomes than Bernie’s instincts and inexperience. Both will have advisors of their own choosing.
One of hers is Bill and don’t think that she won’t lean on Barack and even Biden.
I think its almost nuts to think that she is going to start wars to enable the MIC. Your worries are fantasy IMO. And, since you say it’s no difference with either her or Bernie, then what’s the point? She does have vastly more world wide connections and enduring relationships. The vast population of this nation has barely ever heard of Bernie Sanders. This is a big difference that matters.
I see how you can bag on Hillary but is Bernie Sanders really the answer? He’s no golden god in case you haven’t noticed.
I like Bernie but I’m with Hillary.