Discussion: Clinton Camp Pushes Back On 'Outrageous’ Foundation Attacks

       Trump this week called the foundation a 
              “criminal enterprise” 

All the while the Trump Foundation is " squeeky clean " —

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/trump-foundation-bribe-donald-trump/25817/

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Oh, no. NAFTA and TPP are bad because of the contents of the agreements, not their mere existence. If I had to pick one thing, it is removing the Constitutional right to ask your government for redress by forcing Americans who feel they are wronged to use international, binding mediation over disputes. But there are many others.

There are also good things in both agreements, but as a net they are negatives.

He didn’t say HE didn’t know what the Foundation did, but that people don’t. I suspect sonofares is pretty good at the Google.

Virginal even.

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There’s no reason to change if she’s not elected.

Show me the quid pro quo. This is another phony attack lead by our fearless media.

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I think you need to check your snark meter. @sonsofares was being sarcastic when he said nobody knows what the Clinton Foundation was.

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Frame the argument that Trump et al want to remove medical aid to dying children and remove aid to suffering people around the world. There are myriad ways to throw their “Shut It Down” idiocy back in their hypocritical faces.

The Clinton Foundation is 100 percent transparent regarding all donors and on financial records, including the relatively small percentage of donor money spent on overhead as opposed to spending on charitable projects. Nonetheless, the Republicans would destroy it gladly to further their political aims. Clinton’s campaign must be more aggressive on their push back against the depraved GOP attack machine.

From Factcheck.org:
Considering all of the organizations affiliated with the Clinton Foundation, CharityWatch concluded about 89 percent of its budget is spent on programs. That’s the amount it spent on charity in 2013, he said.
We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and
calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as
going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in
reported expenses.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
It’s a remarkably honest, effective and transparent organization that does profoundly good works.

Because of the Clinton Foundation’s work:
26,000 American schools are providing kids with healthy food choices in an effort to eradicate childhood obesity.

28,000 farmers in Malawi have improved their crops and increased their incomes

33,500 tons of greenhouse gas emissions are being reduced annually across the U.S.

5,400 people have been trained in marketable job skills in Colombia

8.2 million people have benefited from negotiated prices for lifesaving HIV/AIDS medications

The No Ceilings project, led by Hillary and Chelsea Clinton, has convened global partners to evaluate progress for women and girls around the world and promote full participation in the global community

Members of the Clinton Global Initiative community have made more than 3,100 Commitments to Action, improving more than 430 million lives around the world

Through the Clinton Global Initiative:
Procter & Gamble has worked with nonprofit groups to provide 7.5 billion liters of clean water at no cost to those who need it most in more than 70 countries

In America, the UTeach Institute has partnered with ExxonMobil, the Carnegie Corporation of New York and
UT Austin to educate science, technology, education and math teachers from 34 universities by 2020.

Nike has made a commitment to create and fund the Coalition for Adolescent Girls to promote education and literacy, provide vocational training and prevent teenage pregnancy

Almost all of these publicly available facts are, of course, ALWAYS omitted from depraved attacks from the GOP spin machine and their nonsense calling it a “Clinton slush fund” is parroted incessantly by the MSM. It’s infuriating.

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I think there are " things" they have little to no experience with …

That’s for sure —

Seriously? I’m expected to believe that Hillary Clinton met with a grand total of 154 private citizens during her four years as secretary of state? Give me a break. I’m sure the number is a hundred times higher and 95% of them did not give money to the foundation.

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Warning: rant ahead.

Clinton is highly connected. To those who trust her intentions and government in general, this is a good thing. She knows the ropes, she has many sources of information, she can work the system for the common good. To those who don’t trust her intentions, she can be caricatured as an corrupt representative of the establishment. What turns so many people off to politics in general is that so many politicians, Trump being the current exemplar, play it like a game to be won at all costs, without regard to facts, logic, decorum, or any consideration of good governance.

On the other hand, we the people have brought ourselves to this state. We don’t pay attention, we don’t know anything, we have devalued education and science, we only want to buy things, work out, fuck, and be entertained. Politicians use the same sales tactics as the ad-makers to manipulate public opinion.

We’re a long way from Tocqueville’s Democracy in America.

Rant over.

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I have not read the AP report or investigation, but from this article, the Clinton campaign is not rebutting the charges effectively. Did she meet with 154 private individuals? Were 85 of them donors to the Clinton Foundation? If they were, did they get anything out of meeting with the Secretary? Can it be shown that those private individuals who met with Hillary but did not give to the Foundation got as much, or more (if anything) as donors? Those are the kind of questions the public wants answered–and which the public is entitled to know about. The other stuff that the campaign is putting out does not look like response to the charges, but fog designed to obscure what happened. That will hurt, not help.

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Yes, yes, yes. It would take 1 minute or less to say all that. Why haven’t I heard ANY Clinton spokesperson or on-air supporter lay that out (other than Carville who, frankly, scares people)?

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There’s been a media lynch mob after Hillary for 30+ years.
I’ve said from the beginning, no other candidate, left or right, could bring her down, only the media. I remember yelling at my TV at the MSNBC debate when “Not my job” Todd asked her to release her GS speech transcripts, it would not surprise me at all, and I’m saying this without sarcasm, if one of these debates someone brings out an actual lie detector and asks to hook her up to it. The ‘dishonest’ meme has seemed to reach some critical mass where the media is just in a self-feeding feed loop on it. There wasn’t this much attention on Cheney and his Haliburtin connections, a very much for profit corporation that he steered contracts to in a war he pushed through the White House …

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I agree. Most of those media guys I follow are saying “Yeah the Foundation has been doing a great job but shut it down NOW.” But the first part is just a posing to make them look “fair” and I bet they actually have no fuckin idea specifically what good things it has been doing. And that’s why they are awfully comfortable with, say, taking away HIV/AIDS medications from patients who would otherwise die.

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Yep. Trump just bought thousands of copies of his own book at full cost with his campaign funds. Wins all ways.

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Good for them, finally! Swift Boaters need to be called out and exposed as the liars that they are!

Maybe it’s this? From the AP:

At least 85 of 154 people from private interests who met or had phone conversations scheduled with Clinton while she led the State Department donated to her family charity or pledged commitments to its international programs, according to a review of State Department calendars released so far to The Associated Press. Combined, the 85 donors contributed as much as $156 million. At least 40 donated more than $100,000 each, and 20 gave more than $1 million.

We can safely assume that the meetings were not to, say, sell stolen body parts from third world babies of color. But I have to ask two things as a citizen. First, is her meeting with CF donors doing the people’s work, or the Clinton Foundation’s? Second, how could you be so politically stupid not to put up a firewall between your government job and your family foundation?

There doesn’t have to be something nefarious going on for it to be a big mistake. She was “selling access”, even if it went for a good cause.

My point was that to many people saying “we’ll change” validates the false perception that you were doing something wrong (whether she’s elected or not).

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