Discussion: Chuck Schumer Demands Inspector General Probe Into Matthew Whitaker

Possibly, a House committee will take it up.

A really good Netflix documentary is THE SEVENTIES, an eight-part series covering the decade. One episode is entirely about Watergate and the constitutional battle between the US and Nixon. Trump is 100 times worse than Nixon in terms of the scope of crimes and the brazenness of the unconstitutionality. Nixon was a very smart crook; Trump is a bumbling, arrogant fool who simply thinks he’s congenitally above the law.

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Relentless pressure on Whitaker. He cannot be allowed a moment of peace of quiet. We took to the streets when he was appointed. Our electeds need to follow up, nonstop.

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What would you have done?

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He smites Schumer with a cyberspace post. That’ll work.

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:laughing:

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How is pointing out Schumer’s obvious shortcomings rebelling against Democrats? Strawman much? (And here I thought demands of absolute fealty was confined to the Republican’t Party…)

We’re trying to get the Democratic Party back on its feet, winning back the House was step one. Next is the Senate in 2020 and depending on a lot of things, the presidency.

Today would be a good time to start supporting our party in order to get there.

Strawman? No, a Democrat. What are you?

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The first step is recognizing the problem. When Chuck Schumer is one minute proclaiming Trump to be an existential threat to Democracy, and the next gleefully voting to hand him billions more to fund the military and National Security State, he is part of the problem. When Chuck Schumer is looking the other way and whistling while half of his caucus is voting to gut Dodd Frank, he is part of the problem. When Chuck Schumer is selling out America’s moral authority to placate Benjamin Netanyahu, he is part of the problem. People who think that wanting to fix the problem is disloyal just makes them part of the problem…

I know people don’t like Schumer for all these reasons esp. those New Yorkers who post here and say so. But if you’re looking for purity in a Democratic leader, you ought to stop now.

Purity. The other favorite straw man of the bullies. So let me ask you an honest question: If Donald Trump changed his registration to the Democratic Party tomorrow, would you vote for him in the next election?

(And, no, I’m not equating Chuck Schumer with Donald Trump.)

No. Knowing what I’ve always known about trump, all the bad behavior in NY including tearing down a landmark hotel to build the High Tower, his misogyny, his greed, his lascivious behavior all his life, of course I wouldn’t vote for him. How could you even ask that. I’m loyal to my party but not to each elected person in it.

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ā€œGreat big honking bullet-headed shovel-faced muthaā€¦ā€, to borrow Garrison Keillor’s description of Jesse Ventura.

Whaaa? Harry Reid was a master at the Senate and was able to get the fuckin’ ACA passed in spite of having to keep Lieberman and the other Blue Dog Democrats-in-name-only senators in line and with a very small time window to corral the 60-vote victory (Franken was kept out of his seat for six months by a disingenuous recount process the GOP engineered; a month later Ted Kennedy died). As Minority Leader, he regularly found ways to thwart McConnell and his caucus. Schumer, not so much.

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Shoot, I’d settle for half the gusto to start. That’ll turn up enough to go for more gusto, and more, and more. We’ll get to the 100x soon enough, but it needs to be gradual, building force, rising up until it becomes a … shoot, what’s the phrase? Oh yeah. A Blue Wave!

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In other words, purity. Because some would say, that as president he would be the head of the Party, and to say or do anything detrimental to him would be disloyal and hurt the Party. Just as my criticism of Chuck Schumer is disloyal, hurts the Party or could only mean that I’m not a member of the Democratic Party, as you implied earlier…

That only works if you consider comparing Trump and Schumer a fair comparison. I don’t - it’s specious.

Plus, it’s based on the false premise that the Democrats would back someone like Trump. Trump ran to the Republicans because the Democrats rejected him. If he tried to go back to the Ds now, he would still be roundly rejected by the party. The whole line of argument is invalid because the premise it’s based upon is nonsense.

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My favorite description of Whitaker is, ā€œHe looks like a Kenmore refrigerator that escaped from Searsā€.