Discussion: Chris Rock: When We Talk About Race Relations, 'It's All Nonsense'

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Smart man, brave man…his 1997 performance in ‘The 5th Element’ still blows me away…

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Totally agree with everything he said - except Obama’s second album is his best. He’s much better in his second term than his first. He’s just bad at marketing.

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Now if we could just get a politician or two as honest as Chris Rock. I love his routine where he asks if any white person would change places with him. A few uncomfortable giggles and he lowers the boom" “No, and I’m RICH!”

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Chris Rock is indeed smart, but Chris Tucker was in that movie:

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I was just about to note this fact.

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“To say that black people have made progress would be to say they deserve what happened to them before.”

One of those simple phrases that cuts through the fog like a searchlight, throwing all the obfuscation and justification into sharp relief.

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“Rather, white people have acted crazy and today they act less crazy.”

Bingo…but to phrase it and cage the entire issue as such would mean taking responsibility for it…OWNING it…instead of putting it back on black people to “make progress.”

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“So, to say Obama is progress is saying that he’s the first black person that is qualified to be president. That’s not black progress. That’s white progress,” Rock said. "There’s been black people qualified to be president for hundreds of years.

That’s brilliant. Its spot on perceptive and so true.

Another reason I think all this Obama Derangement Syndrome isn’t entirely about Obama is that, though McTurtle wanted him to be “a one term president” and McTurtle and his party failed miserably at that, the Republican Party wants to be damn sure we never have another black president ever again. And just to be sure, they’ve been laying out the political tire tack strips, so to speak, on the road to any future presidency, for all to see, should anyone of color with any serious ambition, good ideas, and yes, “audacity” ever try that again, and even get close to being successful.

ODS is a warning for any other person of color running for President in the future…that if you’re popular, well liked, intelligent and speak from the heart on issues that concern the American people…you may just get the full treatment from the Party of NO that we got during the Obama years. Its all manipulative bullshit…like a public non-stop flogging, meant to condition the populace for what to expect should this ‘one-off’ be repeated somehow in the future.

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“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” - Paul Bradford

In this case the reality is that caucasians have been imposing their reality for far too long and are very worried they’ll be treated as they treated minorities. Black, brown, red, yellow, whatever. Society is evolving and they’re dead-ends.

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Probably the most accurate assessment of the current situation I’ve seem in awhile.

“Look at how some of those negroes are progressing, now that we’ve taken our feet off their ballsacks!”

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It’s totally true.

I’m white and I’ve always thought of it that way. In fact anyone who doesn’t think of it that way is a fucking idiot and probably a racist shitbag too.

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Chris Rock is one of my favorite people in the whole world and one of the funniest. He is one of my favorite people because no one can tell the truth like he can.

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Obama has never been a braggart much to his credit and our dismay. In a perfect world that would work but not in the world of Right Wing media and Goper racism

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Spot on. He’s so right.
It is bull. Everything he said, too true.

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And then Ike says: now will you stop reminding me about the past.

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I read “Black like me” in high school in 1978. Didn’t tell me anything I already knew because I’m a white guy and I already knew white folks treated black folks like shit to varying degrees.

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All those black guys look the same to him…ha ha ha couldn’t resist…

I like Rocks perspective, it’s new and thought provoking. Not even going to open the Morning Joe article, I’m tired of the white perspective and the Sharpton/Jesse perspective…those have become mind-numbing.

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he was terrific in nurse betty and in that nyc movie w julia delpy.