Discussion: Chorus Urging Virginia Lt. Governor Resignation Grows After 2nd Allegation

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Seems like something a littler louder than a chorus would be needed to get him to step down, perhaps 100 bullhorns.
What happens if more women come forward, does he keep denying? He needs to go.

No f*cking way. When the scary White man leaves his job at SCOTUS, then the scary Black man can leave as Lt. Gov. Not before.

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“Del. Patrick Hope said he intends to introduce articles of impeachment against Fairfax…”

Personally, I believe Northam, Fairfax, and Herring all three are in politically untenable positions at this point.

But one thing does puzzle me…

I understood the universal rationalization for not impeaching the two pink guys was that Virginia’s constitutional language reserved it only for offenses committed while in office.

If that’s true, then why the double standard (heinous though the allegations are) with the non-pink guy?

(Or does that question answer itself?)

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You’re forgetting the scary, yet terminally stupid, white guy in the Oval Office. Let’s go for it, bigly.

Also. This is the last time I comment on The Virginia escapades. VIrginia! Sort this the fuck out! I’m moving on.

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Calling Tom Perriello, calling Tom Perriello…

Maybe because a sex crime is impeachable and putting on blackface in college isn’t?
Nah, that’s too easy. It has be racism.

I fully understand the difference in a non-criminal act of racism, and a criminal act of sexual assault.

(My post addressed that point.)

What I do not understand is why the impeachment language in the Virginia constitution – which others have defined as applying only to acts committed while in office – nonetheless applies to Fairfax, who is alleged to have committed these acts before he assumed office.

Either the language does restrict impeachment to acts committed while in office – criminal or otherwise – or it doesn’t.

I don’t see how your response addresses that question.

Which, frankly, was the whole point to my post…

:confused:

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Okay, I understand your point. I feel the same way. You could have made it without the color reference and racial inference.

I really don’t think Herring is in the same place as Northam and Fairfax. First, he admitted it without being forced to do so as with Northam. Second, I really do believe there’s degrees to this shit. It’s one thing to have gone to a party in the 80’s dressed up as a black person and to have darkened your skin to look like the person to whom you were paying homage. It’s quite another thing to put black shoe polish on your face/dress as a Klansman and then memorialize it in your yearbook for all to see. I don’t think what Northam and Herring did are the same thing. One was trying to dress up as a particular black person and thought darkening his skin would sell the costume. The other was making light of slavery and mocking black people. Lastly, what Fairfax is accused of, and I don’t need to tell you this, is just exponentially worse than what Northam did. So, I do think Herring can survive, but the other two need to go now.

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Not trying to start an argument with you, just want to know how come you’re so sure Northham was in that photo when he said he was not?

Added: the only thing he admitted to was dressing up like MJ. Is that like paying homage also?

Along the same line, when the white governor steps down the black lt. gov can step down without it seeming like at the very least an application of a double standard

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I have always tended to believe the woman is such situations, and I tend that way here, too.

But I would like something more than She said/He said before I’m willing to join the mob calling for his instant resignation.

He’s probably toast either way, but it bothers my sense of fairness—and my understanding of our legal system—to let an accusation stand as fact absent any supporting evidence.

Maybe that’s just me.

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It doesn’t matter if it’s him or not (although I suspect it is, and he just decided after seeing it that he could deny it because of the quality of the shot.)

The most egregious part of this whole thing is that the photo, which there is good evidence he did place on his page, is some kind of jocose reference to the KU KLUX KLAN. Just the blackface is insulting and hurtful enough, but standing in blackface next to a Grand Wizard costume is truly disgusting. Nobody, even in the 80s, could have thought that was just…cute? hilarious? No.

The Ku Klux Klan angle is really why he had to deny it was him.

(Oh, and that “Coonman” nickname at VMI? He pretends that he doesn’t know where it came from and that only “one or two” people called him that? That’s a lie, because it’s ridiculous. This unknown nickname ends up immortalized with his graduation picture? Same nonsense as Kavanaugh’s insults to our intelligence like “boofing means farting” and “the Devil’s Triangle is a drinking game.” No. Northam’s a liar.)

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Just because you believe something does not make it so.
Frankly, I need proof or an admission while there’s another possibility of a photo layout being mixed up.

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Exactly.

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On Northam, I just don’t think that a 30+ year old photo is ever grounds for a impeachment. If I thought he was a racist today I would say he has to go but while the picture is offensive it was over 30 years ago. Politicians “evolve” on issues all the time in a relatively short period but we see a 30 year old picture and we assume that Northam must be a racist? That doesn’t strike me as fair indication of who he is today. Nothing about that picture broke a law or was intended to harm anyone. It was just incredibly stupid.

On Fairfax, I thought the first allegation was fairly week. But the new one is very damning. I don’t see him surviving this.Before we start comparing this to Kavanaugh we need to get real. These allegations are much worse and more recent.

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Because I just don’t believe that he wasn’t in the photo. It defies logic to think otherwise. Why would all the photos on his yearbook page be of him except that one highly problematic one? Also, he initially said he was in the photo. It’s one of those things you don’t have to sleep on to know whether or not it’s you. It’s something you’d know immediately.

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And that’s the key point. After that, it doesn’t matter whether he was in that specific photo or not.

The fact that he had to think on it means he was in situations where a photo like that could have been taken.

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Okay, if you look at the photo it appears it could be a couple at a Halloween party. It appears the Klan costume may be worn by a smaller person, perhaps a girl?
I don’t know anything about the photo more than you do. It speaks for itself. It’s racist, no fu*king doubt.
We don’t know that it’s Northam. We don’t know how it got there. He could’ve sent it in or it could be a mix up. Is it too much to wait for more clarity?