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What kind of head is capable of believing that a person who rapes a three year old isnât a pedophile, but, rather is just a guy who acted on a sudden impulse? Dudeâs got a bigger problem than being a bad judge.
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Gosh, when I have sexual impulses I always turn to the youngest person in the room. They all âwant itâ you know. No matter what they say after⌠they WANTED it.
Judge and rapist need to be placed together and see what comes up.
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An internet crowd determining sentences instead of a judge. What could go wrong?
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What are you talking about?
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Probably a better job than this judge did?
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Judge Kelly went on to opine that since a three year old wouldnât remember the âincidentâ, it would be too harsh to make this fine, young, but just a little bit impulsive man pay for his crime for more than a few years.
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Judge is just encouraging infant rapeâŚ
âItâs OKâŚs/he wonât remember a thing a bout itâŚâ
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âŚa court-ordered examination concluded Rojano-Nieto wasnât a sexual predator and acted on impulseâŚ
So he isnât a sexual predator, he just has impulses to rape 3-year olds? Sounds like who ever was handling the court ordered exam might need a looking at as wellâŚ
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Child molesting cases sure bring out the Hammurabi in almost all of us.
Okay, some perspective: this is a country that EXECUTES people a number of difference crimes. There ainât no personal deterrence value in killing a perp; itâs not like heâll âlearn his lessonâ. And thereâs zero evidence from anywhere in the world or from any period in human history of the death penalty acting to deter anyone from doing anything. So, itâs all about Hammurabism.
Now, WTF does a TWENTY FIVE year stretch in the sneezer do to âteachâ anyone anything? A rapist knows his act is wrong at the time of the rape. Any public shame comes from the arrest thru trial thru sentencing to being sent to prison experience; beyond that, all weâre doing is warehousing someone whoâs already learned, or whoâs incapable of learning, or whoâs unwilling to learn. The latter two arrenât punishment or deterrence: theyâre warehousing public dangers.
Next: you weâre there in that court; youâre not a professional judge who deals with these sorts of cases, and constitutional challenges, as part of the job. So donât go condemning things you donât know enough about; itâs no better than all the long-distance diagnosis that claimed Terry Schiavo could be woken from her brain-dead coma and somehow would magically find a life worth living.
Ten years in prison is not nothing. It is horrible. We only send white collar criminals who bilk thousands and millions out of millions and billions and ruin their lives because judges identify enough with white collar criminals that they can be moved by defending attorneys into recognizing publicly HOW horrible it is to be sent to prison for years and how horrible is each minute spent in prison.
How exactly is it that you folks condemning this so-called âlightâ sentence can so clearly and objective see 25 years as more âappropriateâ to a non-homicide case than 10 years, or 20, or 15, or 5. Where did you got to even GET some bogus relative weighting? Is there a chart in the back of one of the books of the Old Testament that Iâve missed?
And HTF is it part of the official business and authority of a country board of supervisors to be making policy statements like this? Quite apart from what a septic field of Republican repression so much of Orange County is, For convenience mainly - tho itâs not at all inaccurate - look at this description from the Wikipedia entry on the âFunctionâ of the O.C. BoS:
The board makes decisions relating to land use, public utilities, and transportation, both directly and indirectly through its power over budgets and appointments to boards, committees, and commissions. Services that are ultimately managed by the board include regional parks, water, sewers, animal control, buses, freeways, and commuter rail.
They OC bos did this for TOTALLY OBLIQUE motives, typical of the creeping republicanism that has state after state make bogus laws supposedly to protect against âSharia law in courtsâ and bands of gays wandering the streets in constant hunt for someone to marry.
So fk right off, OC b of s, and shut your festering gobs about this. If the prosecution thinks the sentence is inappropriate, it will appeal, and an appeal court of REAL JUDGES with REAL PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS and ACTUAL AUTHORITY will rule on this.
In the meantime, Iâm thinking the OC bos is up to trying to advance one of the many disgusting goals of creeping republicanism, recalling elected officials because they donât like the political message they imagine they hear.
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This is political pandering of the worst order. If the DA thinks the sentence is too light, he can appeal it, and he did. Let the Appellate Court do itsr job. Politicians should stay out of the Judicial system unless they are being indicted.
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âRojano-Nieto wasnât a sexual predator and acted on impulse when he attacked a relative.â
How does this sentence even make sense⌠Impulsively raping toddlers isnât the act of a sexual predator?
Or does âsexual predatorâ necessarily mean someone whoâs more calculated and methodical about it? (Which, studies show, is actually the case with most of them, rather than the popular victim-blamey notion of someone being seized by sudden uncontrollable lust incited by the victimâs clothing or whatnot⌠but I somehow doubt that this was actually the point the judge was making.)
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I hope this judge doesnât have any young grandaughters.
This judge is PROJECTING.
Get him off the bench.
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A recall by voters should be effective in getting this judge out of the court room. Then heat up the tar and collect the feathers.
I donât disagree with the sentence length independently as a general matter of âheavier sentences rarely fix anythingâ, but the judgeâs individual comments show a really uh, odd way of evaluating this case.
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âWhat young man would not jump on that candy?â said the judge."
Oops, wrong case. That was a judge commenting on a case in front of him where a male student was sexually assaulted by a female teacher. The âcandyâ he was referring to was the teacher, not the young student.
The nationâs cops are nothing but a gang of murderous thugs and their enablers. The corrections service is riddled with sadists and for profit corporations wholly indifferent to human suffering and their own lawful responsibilities and these are just two of too many examples of judges who should never have been on the bench in the first place.
Is there any part of the justice system thatâs clean and acts honourably?
If he can act like that on impulse, why didnât he rape a cantaloupe instead?
You read enough of those, you learn quickly that most judges arenât writing for general public consumption, theyâre writing in short hand with other judges in mind, in essence arguing the case law for why theyâre deciding this particular way. If this were meant as a holistic treatment on sexual assault, Iâd absolutely agree with you. Itâs not; itâs meant to reflect on a constitutional challenge being made by the prisoner and to try to discover where thereâs some golden line thru a lot of cases with differing facts. There ISNâT any such golden line, certainly not in this sort of case, which is, I assure you, about as difficult and disturbing a CATEGORY of listed crime as criminal attorneys have to deal with.
To be clear, EVERY person who thinks of themselves and wants others to think of them as ânormalâ gets the willies on cases like this one. EVERY one involved tends to use weird strained language. And thereâs reasons for that, the main one being the fact these cases confront us all with the reality of our being animals, part of the animal world. red in tooth and claw,and that sexual urges and foibles are all always comic or tragic. IF WEâRE LUCKY, our own stay well within comedy.
In terms of a public judgment one of the messages you do not want to a judge to send is that if you offend you are more likely to be lightly punished if you pick a young enough victim.
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