Discussion: Biker Who Flipped Off Trump's Motorcade: I Was Fired For Photo

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Although the article does not mention it, someone is likely to comment that the woman’s First Amendment rights were breached. Nope. The Amendment operates only against government agencies, and the employer here was a private business, even if it did have one or more government contracts. It may have been foolish, or intolerant, or bigoted, but it had a perfect right to dismiss the woman from her job.

And maybe she can get a place with a more congenial employer.

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Also, she wasn’t fired for being in the photo. She was fired for then using that photo as her Facebook profile picture. This is an important detail.

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A cyclist who went viral after giving President Donald Trump’s motorcade the finger was fired for posting a picture of the gesture to social media, she told several outlets.

ā€œI’d do it again,ā€ Juli Briskman, 50, told Washington Post columnist Petula Dvorak in a post published Monday.

Good on you for standing up for your principles (and your finger) MS Briskman!! The article makes no mention of your job skills but certainly you’ll find a new career with a different employer.

A colleague, she noted to both publications, had faced minimal consequences for comparable social media obscenity: He called someone ā€œa fucking Libtard assholeā€ on Facebook, but kept his job

I’d be very much at peace parting ways with a company that allows this but has a problem with another person expressing their displeasure with the current occupant…

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Here’s hoping for a new and better job for Briskman. If I had a business, I’d hire her in a heartbeat.

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I hope she gets a flood of offers of well paying jobs.

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I’m sure GoFundMe would be kind to her, should she decide to go that route. Hell, I’d kick in a few bucks.

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Sounds like they were within their rights to fire her for this. I still support her hand gesture fully.

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A colleague, she noted to both publications, had faced minimal consequences for comparable social media obscenity: He called someone ā€œa fucking Libtard assholeā€ on Facebook, but kept his job.

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We once had a Vice President who flipped the bird at a heckler.

https://iconicphotos.org/2009/10/29/rockefeller-gives-middle-finger/amp/

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True – but I believe the Supreme’s have ruled that the middle finger salute isn’t obscene, so there’s some room for recourse.

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He called someone ā€œa fucking Libtard assholeā€ on Facebook, but kept his job.

We could play the sexist angle because he kept his job while she got fired but I’ll go with the free market explanation. The employer is a government contractor and right now the liberal fucking assholes don’t play a role in awarding government contracts. The comment from the male employee probably gives the company a competitive advantage.

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Akima’s website is down. Hmmmmm.

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So they were calling flipping him off ā€˜obscene.’

Obscenity is relative and given the most obscene thing on the planet, Donald Trump, was also in the photo, the only ā€œobsceneā€ thing she could have done was to be polite to him.

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I’m not a lawyer, but I’m wondering if she might have a case based on the company’s unequal treatment of its employees based on the political content of their social media content. They fired her for ā€œobscenityā€ for flipping the bird, but didn’t fire another employee for calling someone a ā€œfucking Libtard asshole?ā€

I get that private employers have broad latitude to fire ā€œat-willā€ employees for almost any reason. But I’m pretty sure employers in general (and I’m very sure federal contractors) are not allowed to discriminate based on ā€œrace, creed or colorā€ (as well as some other categories).

Perhaps one of our resident legal eagles can clarify for me – does ā€œcreedā€ refer only to religion, or can it also refer to political beliefs?

And, more broadly does she have any kind of legitimate legal claim…on this basis or any other? Just curious.

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ā€œSo my relationship with Shinzo got off to quite a rocky start because I never ran for office, and here I am,ā€ Trump remarked. ā€œBut I never ran, so I wasn’t very experienced. And after I had won, everybody was calling me from all over the world. I never knew we had so many countries.ā€

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Wrong approach.

BOSS: Is that you?

ME: I don’t think so. Can you see the person’s face?

BOSS: No.

ME: Then it’s not me.

BOSS: Are you sure?

ME: Are YOU sure? If not, then we’re done here.

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Wrongful termination suit incoming.

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I seem to recall a former VP who told someone to ā€œgo fuck yourselfā€ on the floor of congress.

Then again, I also recall another VP calling the passage of the ACA ā€œa big fucking dealā€ and he was speaking to the president (in the WH, I think?) at the time.

If the company has obscenity rules known in advance, so be it, but they need to be applied equally. Posting ā€œfucking librard assholeā€ seems to be a trifecta of obscene but what the fuck do I know?

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Basically, you cannot have ā€˜lewd’ or ā€˜obscene’ things in your social media.

To the most lewd and obscene fake pres in U.S. history.

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