Biden would be 78 years-2 months on Inauguration Day. Would voters go for that?
Lotta things to be conflicted about today. Biden is one of them. He was an absolutely fabulous VP, but I am less confident in him as Nr 1.
Sigh. I donāt begrudge him the run, and yet I still would rather he wouldnāt.
I am shocked, astounded, gobsmacked to learn that Biden thinks he would be the best candidate.
Biden probably has more experience than anyone that would run, butā¦
We need someone that inspires and I donāt see that being Biden. Think we all know that fresh dynamic faces are what gets peopleās attention.
Donāt know what happened with the Lump, guess thereās a segment of the population thatās into carnival barkers.
I think he would be hated as a President. Mainly because I think his primary goal would be to get things back to āthe way they once were.ā That would mean he would work hard with Republicans to try to find a common ground. That would make him hated by many on this site.
Yea how did that work out with Obama???
Do some other good thing Joe, please.
I look forward to endless stories debating Bidenās ālikabilityāā¦
I get the feeling that the people telling Joe he is our best hope are not the regular readers or commentators on TPM. I suspect that, in Joeās world, we only matter if we vote for him
Doesnāt exist anymore.
They are the party of Trump now
No compromise , No Kumbya
The rules have changed . They understand a kick in the nuts and little else
SEE: Wall, US border, Shutdown
Completely agree
There is a technique in bridge card play known as a ātrump coupā. In this play, the declarer shortens the length of their trump suit to the length of the defenderās.
While in general, Biden is not the best candidate, as an old white guy from the northeast who sometimes puts his foot in his mouth, his disadvantages are well matched to the incumbent. Nominating him could be akin to something like a ātrump coupā in bridge.
(I think he should run, because any democratic candidate who canāt beat Biden is going to have trouble against the incumbent. But personally, I prefer Harris, or Klobuchar, or Warren, or Sherrod Brownā¦)
I think heās one of the stronger candidates but, iām not 100% certain heās the BEST bet. Although, I do think a combination of Biden/Beto, Biden/Harris, Biden/Castro, etc are sure things.
I just said this on the Bernie board, but anyone who is considering Biden for 2020 needs YET ANOTHER looks at the replays of the Anita Hill hearings that played during the Kavanaugh debacle. His conduct was disgraceful and disqualifying. We forgave him the plagiarism stuff, but he has never reckoned with his cowardice and old-boy camaraderie during the Thomas nomination.
Not so sure . Been there done that. I like Joe , but not for President
The 2008 presidential campaign of Joe Biden, the longtime Senator from Delaware, announced his candidacy for President of the United States on the edition of January 7, 2007 of Meet the Press. He officially became a candidate on January 31, 2007 after filing papers with the Federal Elections Commission. Biden had previously run for president in 1988, but failed to receive the nomination of the Democratic Party. If elected, Biden would have been the first sitting Senator and Roman Catholic to become president since John F. Kennedy, and the only President to be born during World War II (Bill Clinton was the first born after the war).
During the campaign, Biden focused on his plan to achieve political success in the Iraq War through a system of federalization. He touted his record in the Senate as the head of several congressional committees and experience in foreign policy. Despite a few notable endorsements, Biden failed to garner significant support in opinion polls, and was marred by controversial comments made while campaigning. He ultimately dropped out of the race on January 3, 2008, after coming in 5th place and capturing less than 1% of the vote in the Iowa caucus.[4]
Iāve said it before and I will say it again. Biden is usually wrong on every important thing, in the nicest possible way.
And yet Nancy Pelosiās incoming message was that the Democrats were going to work with Republicanāts in Kumbaya Bipartisanship. Itās like they never learn. Or, more likely, itās like we never learn. We never learn that they are all in the same club and we are not. They never have any trouble āreaching across the aisleā when theyāre agreeing on yet another invasion, or shoveling money at corporations or the MIC, or screwing the little people with corporate incentives to outsource jobs to low wage countries.
Joe Biden, if he is the nominee, will lose to Trump much worse than Hillary Clinton. Plus his negative coattails will cost us the House and Senate. But the institutional Democratic Party would rather lose to a Republicanāt than to ever see a real progressive take power. That way they donāt have to govern and can blame getting everything they ever wanted wanted (coddling Wall Street, tax cuts for billionaires and corporations, insane military spending and ignoring the environmental calamity that is on our doorstep) on the Republicanāts. Plus they get to raise boatloads of campaign cash to feed the DC Consultancy Class Monster with fear-based messages instead of trying to explain why they just canāt seem to get anything meaningful done. (And yes, of course I know that Obamacare was meaningful. It did a bang-up job propping up insurance and pharmaceutical corporations while relieving Democrats of the responsibility of governing by literally handing Congress, the Supreme Court and the White House to Republicanātsā¦)
O/T sort of. Great Twitter thread on the āHorse Raceā style of campaign coverage - and how i (the coverage style) t will likely only serve the Trump camp well - not by design - but by default.
same - in threadreaderap form:
I think you just about lost everyone at this point.