Discussion: Barr Revealed His 'Stunning' Theory For Clearing Trump Of Obstruction

IANAL, but if I played one on TV I would be more credible than this corpulent heap of pink slime. Lock him the fuck up, along with Orange Stain and the rest of his toadies.

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And no matter how this one ends, it will be the reason for obstructing the next Dem POTUS.
Remember when Karl Rove talked about a permanent Republican majority and people thought he was talking about elections? How naive.

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I was thinking that right after Dotard 1.0 finished his second term (Reagan). I remember thinking, the good news is this is rock bottom.

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Yes. Furthermore, if a future president in this alternate timeline is investigated and does not shut it down, that indicates he’s guilty. So every investigation will be shut down.

If you had that power, who wouldn’t use it?

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You may have read the Comey op/ed. He talks about how guys like Barr allow themselves to be corrupted by Trump and then defend him. Where I think Comey is wrong is that Barr effectively applied for he job of playing Trump’s Roy Cohn and he’s doing that shamelessly and brazenly.
I just can’t figure where Barr is coming from. Is he just some GOP party loyalist? Does he support a “unitary” (read dictator) presidency? Does he not recognize the danger a Trump poses to our democracy? Does he care?

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something to do with Money ? ? …

He does get to write a more interesting book now —

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Shorter post: Barr is full of shit.

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Generisimo Franco would be so proud.

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Gives a whole new meaning to an attorney being the client’s mouthpiece. Given the GOP’s rampant homophobia it should lead to a fatal attack of cognitive dissonance.

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You are right…no one should think that Barr came into this job with higher motives OR clean hands. He was already corrupt, but he did a good job of hiding it from his fellow republicans by playing the “strict institutionalist.”

I don’t think he sees donnie as a danger. I think he sees him as a tool.

I think Barr looks forward to the day he can break the glass display case and wipe his ass with the constitution.

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I think about this often. As we approach retirement (I know, because I’m getting close), we inevitably consider our legacy, What did our work mean? How would we like to be remembered? And we consider these things even if our sphere of influence is smaller than Barr’s. I can only conclude that either Barr is getting some kind of huge payoff for destroying his own reputation or that murky business about Justice Kennedy, Barr’s son-in-law and Deutsche Bank is very bad.

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Well, there’s probably one constraint anyway - I’m sure Barr doesn’t think his theory of limitless executive power should be extended to Democratic presidents.

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Yep…it makes one suspect that they feel they can run the table and create a permanently repub WH.

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No doubt a Barr intervention in Trump’s favor over the Deutsche Bank issue is coming.

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Au contraire, he made his corrupt intent abundantly clear to his fellow Republicans, thus assuring his Senate confirmation.

In the World According to Barr running the table only requires retaining 33 seats in the Senate. If the president has the constitutional authority to quash any investigation into his acts, and if he cannot be indicted regardless of the evidence against him, then the only recourse is impeachment, which is impossible if his party can hang the jury.

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When I heard Barr espouse this perspective on presidential power, I was horrified, but the rebuttal I would have given the TV was short-circuited by Barr’s assertion that not only did the President have the right to pull the plug on unfounded investigations, but also that Trump had been falsely accused of wrong doing. By presenting a theory that was both novel & wrong-headed, but also factually untrue, as the Professor from Stanford observed, Barr was short-circuiting arguments against his statements. You have to take them one at a time, and say if A was correct (that Presidential powers give Trump the right to shut down an investigation) which it is not, then you need to address assertion B, that Trump was falsely accused. But you really need to start with B, and then work back to A and negate them both. It requires cool dispassionate logic to deal with this stuff. I get far too worked-up to do anything more than snarl and spit when Barr shows his face.

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and still dead!

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In Barr’s mind the President is the Prosecutor, Defense Attorney, Judge and Jury. The Founding Fathers did not want a King.

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Holy shit!! This is the essence of Barr’s biased opinion isn’t it? That a POTUS can claim his feelings are being hurt by what he believes is an unfair investigation. He only has to believe based on nothing more than his feelings that an investigation into his campaign or anything else is unfair and that alone gives him the right to quash that investigation. Any bets on how the Supremes will decide this. As Mueller said in the report, no man is above the law. Even the President. So will Roberts allow this unconstitutional power grab to fly knowing that it will be used by a Democratic President Harris in the future?

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