Discussion: Baltimore Police Reveal New Information About Freddie Gray's Arrest

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What are the chances the BPD would admit to what we all know happened? Zero. The man’s neck was broken after he was arrested. We know that. We also know that arrest should have not taken place.

So we have a man killed while in police custody and no one disputes that or that the death was the result of serious trauma. It is inconceivable, just from what we all do know and the police do not dispute, that the cops are not being deceptive. They know what they did just as we do. In time it will all come out.

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This is just so wrong. Stopping to complete paperwork!! I have seen some footage of the young man actually standing in the van handcuffed with cops around him and he appeared to be in pain but the video stopped before the actually closed the doors so who knows if they threw him in the van and how did his voice box get crushed.

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I sure hope so

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Sure its wrong. That’s why the cryptic behavior on the behalf of the Cops. If they had a legit excuse or a false one that would stand scrutiny they would be yelling it all over the place…as would be the media. Silence speaks more than words here. They don’t have anything they can say.

The Cop’s broke this man’s neck. They killed him yet he had done nothing wrong. And everyone pretends not to get it. The media yacks about “thugs” and the Cop’s do of gangs and purges. No one talks about being Black in Baltimore and this killing the pudding of proof of what that’s about. A broken fucking neck.

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He has also said officers failed to put a seat belt on Gray while he was in the transport van as required by department policy.

Sir, let’s call it like it is: The officers’ fail with regards to the seat belt was deliberate.

These officers should pay by spending the remainder of their natural lives behind bars in the general population of all the prisoners.

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I agree wholeheartedly with everything you said. When is something going to change

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Stop 1: “N-bombstarted mouthing off…acting ‘irate’”

Stop 2: “We pulled over to tune him up a bit to get him to shut the fuck up and remember his place.”

Stop 3: “Dunkin’ Donuts. Officer X went in to grab us treats. Officer Y asked Gray if he’d learned his lesson and was willing to be obedient now…told him to stop faking it and crying about ‘it hurts it hurts and I can’t feel my legs’.”

Stop 4: “Picked up another n-bomb so we could try to pin the kid’s injuries on him instead.”

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Well if history has taught the mighty fine leadership structure of Baltimore anything they should know if they shine this travesty off…they ain’t seen nothin yet. Someone has to go down. You have 6 suspended Cop’s and a dead guy. It’s only matter of time before an attorney tells one of those Cops to shit can the Code of Blue and start covering his ass. Only one option there…rat the neck breaker out.

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“He has also said officers failed to put a seat belt on Gray while he was in the transport van as required by department policy.”

OK, well, let’sa assume for a second that the second stop wasn’t the “let’s deliver a beating” stop and he was injured before being put in the van: hard to put a seatbelt on a limp kid who has no control over his body because his spine is severed…let’s just lay him on the floor of the van.

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Oh yeah, that stop. Totally forgot about that one.

Christ. I guess everyone just needs to pull out their phones and video every cop they see every time they see them, rather than only recording the arrests, shootings and beatings.

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The van first pulled over to complete paperwork after the driver believed Gray began acting “irate.”

This just doesn’t pass the smell test at all. What is the connection between stopping to do paperwork and having an irate prisoner? Is paperwork somehow easier to do while sitting in a van with an irate prisoner in the back screaming and yelling?

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His neck was broken while in the van? How could Gray break his own neck? If he was asking for help he wasn’t suicidal. Were there bruises on his head and a concussion. If he did it himself wouldn’t there be multiple injuries on his body. I think that the stop where they say Gray was irate was when the cops beat him up and caused his neck to break.

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Nickle rides don’t work if you use a seatbelt.

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Now THAT is a project I’d like to see actually take place for a day all over a major city. Gather a few hundred activist-minded folks who just go out, find a cop and start recording while tagging along. Or fuck it…just get the word out around the country that such-and-such day is Video a Cop Day, asking people to just pull out the ole cell phone and start recording whenever they happen to run across a cop. You really gotta wonder how many beatings would result.

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Seatbelts in custody vans?! What’s next, OSHA rules for all the police sub-stations? EPA mandated “clean” water in the drinking fountains at police headquarters? Handrails in the stairwells!!! Geez, whatever happened to liberty and freedom??? Argh!!!

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Don’t worry- Hannity is on it with the real story
You see, he broke his own spine on purpose.
And It’s all about Obama.

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According to the totally not racist right wing Foxhuffers, he did it to himself. No, really. That’s what they’re saying.

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You go first, what you’re suggesting is something a swift baton blow to the head will put a stop to.

“Baltimore Police Reveal New Information About Freddie Gray’s Arrest”

I really hate it when police do this - distancing themselves individually and the BPD in particular from blame. In using this ‘new information’, which is of debatable relevance but offers a perfect lead-in, they get to include:

The van did it because they forgot to secure the victim with a seat belt. It happens (shrug shoulders)

The driver first pulled over to complete paperwork after he noticed Gray was acting “irate.”
So Freddy was irate because he was in the back of a police van handcuffed and w/o a seat belt?
And if he were irate, well then … he must have still been alive! And if so, then Freddy wasn’t killed when arrested. Van did it is the logical conclusion .

Or you can conclude the same with this from the BPD: “At a third stop, an officer had “some communication” with Gray, which was under investigation.”

The police are masters at this kind of marginalizing of the victim and at the same time creating doubt as to was responsible, or if anyone at all was responsible. Shit happens. The way police cover up is just so so cruel.

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