Discussion: Baltimore Orioles Manager: 'I've Never Been Black' Can't Talk About Hardships

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Never been an Orioles fan, before this:then tweeted Angelos, and thus speaks Showalter. Now: gimme a B …

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(groan)
Brilliant, Buck, just brilliant. Got any other pearls of wisdom?

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Y’know, it seems like such an obvious point, and yet it’s lost on a lot of people. I applaud him for saying it.

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Not the kind of stuff you generally hear from a white athlete. Good on him!

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Exactly - I really think it is THE response that most white people need to give.

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Yeah, Showalter has always struck me as a good guy. A little tightly wound, but definitely not an asshole.

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…perceptiveness.

Which is lacking in so many.

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Actually, I think you’re more likely to hear it from a white athlete than most other white people. The reason is simple: somebody like Showalter has spent his adult life around African-Americans, made friends with them, actually talked to them.

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It’s important to point out that he not only recognizes that he is outside the experience, but he actually believes that the experience he is outside of is a valid one, and not just therefore dismissible because it’s outside of his experience. That second part is what too many people fail on, and is many times at the root of problematic conservative thinking (not trying to get partisan, but come on, it’s a huge problem running through any issue they address that isn’t about cis white men).

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What are you talking about? That was the appropriate answer. What did you want, for him to say “I’ve read ‘Black Like Me’. I’ve coached black players”?

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Buck is spot on…

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Thought it was a great point, what’s your beef?

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Thanks Buck for the response although it is a bit sad that common sense, accurate statements like this need to be applauded but they do. The Orioles organization has really handled this whole situation well. Kudos to them.

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Sorry, darrtown, but he nailed it. Every commentator on Fox “News” who weighs in needs the same goddamn basic response.

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The gang members said same in a different way: From Larry Wilmore interview.

"Wilmore asked them to explain the anger in the city.

“You see the corner on this menu right here?” one member said.
“Here’s a person, this is you — there’s only so far back into this
corner you can push me until I push back. That’s what happened, they
pushed back.”

Wilmore noted that many people across America criticizing the unrest can’t relate to this idea.

“Of course not, if you’re living in a million-dollar house how can you relate to living in the hood, getting pushed?” he said.

The member compared it to a well-off person getting angry about
property taxes, something he and his friends can’t relate to. Wilmore
then jokingly explained his own anger about property taxes.

“And you call a lawyer and you push back!” the member said.

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Empathy vs. sympathy

Always a winning choice

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And he is absolutely right. He may have been a little inarticulate but we and everyone knew what he means. There is no way any white person can begin to imagine what life is like for the average black person on a daily basis. Good on him.

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Indeed he was. Buck is also a very underrated coach, he built up those Yankee teams that Joe Torre got credit for (and that’s not a poke at Torre, just the facts).

Buck has never been about flash and putting on a show either. In this case he could have gave some theatrical answer to make him the “main event”, and kept the questions coming. Instead he made a simple statement which in essence silenced any follow up questions. Smart and civil.

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My kind of guy ! It’s that old Indian proverb I think it goes walk a mile in another mans moccasin’s before you judge him.

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