Discussion: Attorney General Holder: St. Louis Shooting Deserves 'Fulsome Review'

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I hope he misspoke—

“Fulsome” means “flattering to an excessive degree.”

Even its secondary meaning—of large size or quantity—is inappropriate.

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I was about to go off on him for misusing “fulsome,” but it looks like some of the dictionaries have given up the good fight and acquiesced in the misuse as a second meaning.

And JFC lawyers in particular have a major penchant for misusing the word that way. Makes me fucking crazy.

Almost as crazy as people who say “tact” when they mean “tack.”

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But the banksters who bilked us out of billions, why, don’t ask — because if you do, you might wreck the economy in the mere asking. What a stooge.

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You missed the legal reference to fulsome:

Here it is used in a sentence; “Additionally, detainees must have fulsome procedures that allow them to test the legality of their detention.”

“encompassing all aspects; comprehensive” and it is listed as fourth in my dictionary.

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Thanks—I didn’t know there was a particular legal usage for that word.

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I am sure the minority community understands the relationship between a tainted internal review and an all encompassing one that is transparent and fair. Obviously Holder is calling for something different than the usual whitewash when it comes to minorities and economically disadvantaged people.

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Only one kind of good cop…rhymes with ‘red’.

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Minorities are in the same danger zone of the Red Summer of 1919. The violence continued into the early 20s where whole communities were wiped out near Tulsa, OK; Rosewood, FL and many others cities. Unchecked white violence around immigration patterns and social mobility.

www.pbs.org/wnet/.../stories_events_red.htm… The Red Summer refers to the race riots that occurred in more than three dozen cities in the United States during the summer and early autumn of 1919.

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Good, Mr. Holder. Because the world is watching, and so far what I’ve seen from the Ferguson PD isn’t much that would instill confidence.

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There isn’t. It’s a misuse by lawyers who thought it sounded more impressive, learned and majestic (following the Great Rule of Legal Composition that the use of three adjectives or adverbs in succession makes the sentence containing the modified verb or noun true, accurate and complete) than “full” because it had more syllables and that the dictionaries finally gave up on and started treating as a legit usage.

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Good grief. A young man is dead, killed by the police, and you guys are arguing semantics?

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I sincerely hope so! We have friends who live in Ferguson. The town is not considered to be a racial “flashpoint” town by St. Louis and suburbs.

There has been too much emphasis on arming police with surplus military equipment which fosters a Rambo-like approach to law enforcement.

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A black kid was apparently murdered in cold blood by a cop; the Attorney General states he is overseeing a deep investigation into the incident; and all people here can do is argue over the semantics of “fullsome”? Come on, people. We’re better than this.

Usually when something like this is announced it’s by some official who takes a tiny look into what happens, slaps whomever caused it on the wrist, and calls it a day. What makes me see this as more than that is Holder’s own history. He knows this all too well, and civil rights is his hot button issue.

Meanwhile, the cops in Ferguson are assaulting innocent citizens exercising their right to protest. There are photographs flooding Twitter from people on the ground. The cops know this is happening and are treating the people with phones as if they had guns.

I wonder when we will stop police escalation? We have militarized police forces. The only people who ever face these things are innocents.

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