Discussion: After Video Contradicts John Kelly, White House Doubles Down In Defense

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#150

Yes, I agree this is dangerous for us as a democracy. Who’s telling the truth? And if the truth becomes known, will the administration continue to deny it? Then what?

What I also find frightening is the power of RWNJ media to echo the lies and ultimately muddy the waters until most people are sick of it all and decide the truth is unknowable. We are in the grip of an administration that functions full time in propaganda mode. And it’s working.

By this time most foreign leaders have openly acknowledged that they don’t count on the US to follow its promises or alternatively, they count on being able to bribe the president to change his stance on anything.

Increasingly, I rely on long-time reliable media sources, but many of them are dependent on administration sources, albeit those who are fed up with trump and willing to betray him. Why does it seem as if the truth is ever harder to find?

#151

We do only to the wxtent that we accept it. I’m highly disappointed in both the press, and especially the Democratic party, for their relatively tepid reactions to Trump’s incessant lying.

Imagine the continued ear piercing howls from the GOP if this were Barack or Hillary.

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#152

Sophie_Brown: I concur with your opinion of Kelly, certainly didn’t take long for him to accept the full cranial rectal inversion Trump offered him.

#153

Sanders’ statement continued: “As Gen. Kelly pointed out, if you’re able to make a sacred act like honoring American heroes about yourself, you’re an empty barrel.”

Huh? WTF? Did you go to Drumpf’s visit to the CIA in his first days in office?!?!? Seee the videos? Read the news accounts? This is the “I know you are, but what am I” school of politics, Sarah.

But Wilson did not make this presentation about herself. She briefly recounted her efforts to actually honor the fallen FBI agents, as well as the help of many others in getting this done.

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#154

The Question: How did Chad end up on the Trumpian “Axis of Travel” Travel Ban, given that “Chad’s troops apparently have a well-earned reputation for being the fiercest, most reliable anti-terrorist force in the region, and probably provided protection for US Special Forces on many occasions.”

I CAN EXPLAIN: 1. The Trumpian Foreign-Policy brain trust needed more countries to add to the “Axis of Travel”, given that Iraq was taken off the list. Plus they needed non-Arab & not obviously Islamic countries (to help convince skeptical federal judges that this was something more substantive than “Muslim Ban 3.0”
2. The “Nambia” disaster; remember that?
3. Chad was chosen because it’s in sub-Saharan (Black) Africa, nobody in Trump-world knows much about it except that it’s not obviously Arab.
Best of all, Mr. Trump remembers a 60’s duo called “Chad & Jeremy” and is sure he can pronounce the name, “Chad”, reliably & reasonably well in speeches & interviews.

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#155

The Question: How did Chad end up on the Trumpian “Axis of Travel” Travel Ban, given that “Chad’s troops apparently have a well-earned reputation for being the fiercest, most reliable anti-terrorist force in the region, and probably provided protection for US Special Forces on many occasions.”

They alledgely ran out of passport paper, so they didn’t provide a sample before deadline. ( No, Really! I have posted the link to the Guardian article in another thread)

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#156

Seriously doubt Sarah Cynthia Sylvia Stout Huckabee Sanders ever actually carefully watched the video

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#157

Huckabee Sanders, who works for the Empty-Barrel-in-Chief, accuses Rep Wilson of calling attention to herself. Clearly the press secretary suffers from irony deficiency.

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#158

FOLKS, it is time to get serious to save DEMOCRACY in AMERICA THE UNITED STATES!

The first step to moving in the direction to recapture OUR DEMOCRACY, it to first recognize that the Trump administration is what a FAILED US ADMINISTRATION LOOKS LIKE!

#159

They knew what they were getting themselves into, and John Cunt Coward Kelly and Sarah Shit Machine Sanders get wonderful joy in their hearts doing it.

#160

Now, triple down…quadruple down, quintuplel down…you will still be demonstrably lying and the general will be a man who gave it all to prop up an unworthy President.

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#161

Kelly hasn’t just gone bad since he hooked up with Trump. He and Trump are of a mind. Kelly is just a much better politician. Here’s a link to an article positing that he’s “always been a hard right bully.” The author uses a 2010 speech by the general to illustrate his contempt for civilians who question war mongering, his paranoid worldview and more. https://theintercept.com/2017/10/21/it-didnt-just-start-now-john-kelly-has-always-been-a-hard-right-bully/

Kelly is truly scary as illustrated by his own words

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#162

White House Says It Is Unpatriotic to Offer Irrefutable Video Evidence That a General Lied

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#163

@mondfledermaus

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#164

No. It’s because Chad stood up Ivanka at the Junior Hop, and danced all night with that whore Brittany.

#165

“The White House on Friday stood behind its chief of staff, despite video showing definitively that he misspoke when he attacked a Democratic congresswoman on Thursday.”

Come on TPM, Kelly didn’t “misspeak”, he LIED!

#166

I hope that’s snark. If not, you need help.

#167

Actually I would like to see proof he was actually there. Since this was a dedication of an FBI building, and Kelly had nothing to do with the FBI, it makes no sense that he would be there in the first place.

#168

No shit!

#169

Particularly, a Modern Major General!

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