Discussion: After Senate Repeal Fails, Obama 'Still Believes' Congress Can Build On O'Care

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Lil’ Donnie’s gonna be frosty. How dare the blah man opine on the path forward!?

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How I miss that man.

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Classy as ever.

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Off topic but I think the Boy Scouts really need to invite Obama to speak even if the jamboree is over. It’s appropriate and warranted and they’d get a barn burner of a speech and great publicity for it.

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Ooooh, someone at the WH is gonna howl about this. Mooch, Huckster, KAC, maybe even Donnie himself.

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Oh yeah, that’s right - isn’t there supposed to be some sort of “shadow government” that he’s running? Bets on how smoothly even that would be running compared to the official debacle.

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PBO’s the master of anti-troll trolling. Don’t try this at home, kids.

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I think we need a Special Counsel to investigate POTUS Obama, Senator McCain, Senator Collins, Senator Murkowski and the entire Dem Congress.
Oh and former SoS HRC, and former NSA directior Susan Rice and Valerie Jarrett and former AG Holder. Oh, and… ACORN. And Benghazi.

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And so, the debate before us is not between big government and limited government; it is between smart, effective leadership that works to solve problems and bring people together to work toward mutually beneficial goals, and abusive governments that perpetuate the privileges of special interests and maintain power imbalances by dominating others, and which do not enjoy the consent of its people.

It’s the age-old battle between chaos and community.

And so it goes: the community organizer’s continuing striving for A More Perfect Union.

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He still does presidential better than anyone in my lifetime.

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I almost don’t care what he’s saying or what the message is because he looks so good and sounds so smart doing it. You don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone. . . .

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Such a whiplashing, from 100 percent class to zero, from extraordinary intelligence to below average, from amazingly articulate to apelike grunting, from 99th percentile empathy to pathologically devoid. I laugh now to think about my little dissatisfactions with him. You know what I was always a little disappointed about? That he wasn’t a bit stronger on civil rights. Yeah, I know. Ironic.

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“I WILL HAUNT YOU FOREVER!”

Obama clearly loves being the GOP’s nemesis

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Well, if there was something that irritated me about him…even though I totally understand why he does it (i.e., because he’s more adult than I am haha)…was his insistence on optimism and positivity that borders on appearing as pure naivete. McCain’s doing it right now too and I dunno, maybe he’s just trying to get into heaven at this point. Both of them are 100% wrong. The GOP/Teatrolls are going to quadruple down, get angrier, get their base angrier and do what they always do: convince themselves that the only reason they failed is because they didn’t do it hard enough, repeat it often enough and scream it all loud enough.

Frankly, I anticipate the Dems will also do what they always do: believe people who are saying things like Obama and McCain are saying and then get caught totally flat-footed by the next underhanded bullshit scheme the GOP/Teatrolls pull. The perennial Charlie Browns still haven’t figured out that this is the time when you’re supposed to run up and kick Lucy in her fucking head, because fuck her, fuck the football and not this fucking time and never again.

And you know I’m right…just look:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/07/28/republicans-call-for-second-special-counsel-to-probe-clinton-lynch-and-more.html

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Obama still believes that the Republicans aren’t liars and cheaters. Sad.

As presidential as Lincoln. Excuse me “more presidential” than all except Lincoln.

I used to think as you do. And a few times I railed against his “extending his hand” moments which just seemed like folly in the face of unrelenting hatred.

Until I realized that much of the country wants to see that generosity, that spirit of trying in the face of adversity. No, I don’t think that he or the Democratic Party believed that the GOP was a trustworthy political Party. At the end. At the beginning, he was filled with way too much wide eyed hopefulness. (But then, weren’t most of us…)

Many Americans want to believe (much like Fox Mulder) that America is, at its core, good, morally sound and will do the right thing. I believe that one of the reasons Obama will be remembered by many in this country for being one of the greatest POTUS’ we’ve had is because of his unrelenting spirit that he gave to the country. Too generous of spirit? Absolutely. Even when he wanted to mow the entire GOP to the ground in machine gun fire. But I don’t think it was naivete.

With President Obama, there was usually a plan behind the gesture.

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They paved paradise
and put up a Trump hotel…

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Make no mistake: I’m all for playing “adult in the room” and handing out rope when I think it’s an appropriate and effective tactic for the situation. I don’t think it will be effective here. The situation is too easy for the GOP to manipulate by doing essentially nothing. They can, in fact, just pull the ball away again without any repercussions…let Price mismanage the ACA, refuse to compromise, sabotage any process for negotiating fixes to the ACA, hold anything that’s agreed hostage to further demands, etc. etc. etc. I want be clear I’m not talking about gratuitous head-kicking here. Dems still need to be offering a compromise process and be wiling to engage in it in good faith, but they should go in with the expectation that the GOP will be sabotaging it at every step of the way and have a solid plan for where their foot is going when the GOP predictably pulls the ball again. Swinging their foot at empty space yet again is not an acceptable outcome here.