Discussion: Admin Housing Migrant Kids At Army Base Once Used As Japanese Internment Camp

Trump and his maladministration never fail in their ability to repeat history, even if Trump thinks that he is an original.

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The numbers may have increased because family separation never stopped. It is the season to send unaccompanied minors to try and cross the border. And with ICE going after everyone relatives are afraid to come forward and take custodianship of these minors.

And let us not forget that Trump and Co. wants to make Mexico the “first safe country” that asylum seekers have to stop and ask for asylum. He wants Mexico to solve his problems, and the Trump base still thinks that most of these people are Mexicans as opposed to people from the Northern Triangle countries.
And lets also not forget that we have so many “acting” heads of agencies that who the fuck knows what the hell is going on.

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Horrendous.

I agree with those who wonder if Trump, and many of his supporters, remember this episode of our history, but sadly, I sort of wonder how many care. I remember one time - maybe early 2000’s - discussing the Japanese internment camps with an acquaintance who had sort of right wing leanings. I didn’t usually talk politics with him, but the episode had come up as a plot point in some movie. I remember I had to try to convince him why this whole episode was a bad thing, a national shame, and he couldn’t seem to understand why. I was sort of flabbergasted.

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Never mind. They blocked that link also
Wasn’t really all that exciting to watch anyway

I’m surprised TPM did not report on Jon Stewart dressing down Congress yesterday. Then again, not too much.

Jon Stewart Gets Standing Ovation After Ripping Congress’ Treatment Of 9/11 First Responders

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Try this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d92TSgx7oYg&feature=player_embedded

I am going to puke. Literally. I am going to puke.

Rachel Maddow was going into this (a bit) last night with the news about Elaine Chao/Mitch McConnell. THERE IS ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN PUT TARGETED FOCUS ONTO.

Trump is SO corrupt and has instituted such HIDEOUS policies it’s like playing WHACK-A-MOLE trying to stop him.

When I become President in 2021 I will have the ENTIRE ‘working’ cabinet put under investigation for all the evident political corruption.

I would LOVE to find a way to send Stephen Miller to Israel, revoke his citizenship. But I know he was born here and we are STUCK with that POS.

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Not funny. Not funny at all.

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Holding migrant kids is bad. But in general holding people on Army bases with proper housing and facilities instead of in abandoned Wal-Marts is an improvement.

This is the second such incident where Trump is going out of his way to desecrate all that vets in WW II fought against. First with his interview on the lawn in front of the troops fallen at Normandy and now by re-establishing the internment camps that house Americans of Japanese ancestry to be incarcerated for the length of the war.

Now that so many WW II vets and their immediate families have died, Trump figures it doesn’t matter that one by one, whether it be the Statue of Liberty or the Grand Canyon, Trump is setting out to destroy it. Trump makes America weaker by the day. $137,000 so far in security and travel to and from Trump’s personal golf courses, where he then bills the government for tremendous room and board expenses for all the security and other staff the Trump administration assign to each trip.

The recent media fiasco in Ireland, where Trump demonstrated not only that he didn’t know the difference between Ireland and Northern Ireland, but even while on foreign soil he didn’t seem to care, since he was so busy selling the world as to how beautiful his courses are and how all rich and powerful foreigners should come and spend their money there, thereby jacking up the prices for taxpayers in direct violation of the Article I, Section 9, Clause 8 of the Constitution of the United States of America.

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I am so frustrated by the lack of consequences for such flagrant abuses.

It seems we as a nation are just not that bothered by child abuse. Even here at TPM “professional asshole says something crazy on the tv” articles get prominent placement (and there are three to four of them each day, but news about the government holding people in conditions that violate both the law and human decency barely make a ripple.

I don’t think these two articles even made TPM:

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When I looked at it there was an optional link to watch it directly on youtube that worked.

where are the people who organized the immigrant marches…I just don’t think these poor people just get up and decide to make this trek…with their very young children, over long distances…from the pictures I’ve seen, they don’t look like they have missed many meals…and they appear to be well clothed…they are not wearing rags… I can understand why they want to come here…with all the GOV. benefits available…life can be pretty good… I know I sound mean and hard -hearted,but I would like someone to explain how these people make that long trek…on their own, and without a sponsor?

Yes, where the are no schools, no proper pediatric care, and no future for the children other than indefinite detention for the rest of their lives, living on canned foods and sleeping on cots. How can we complain about North Korean or Chinese internment camps when we do this? How far from Christianity will Trump and his base veer? They already reject the Commandment not to bear false witness, they no longer care for the sick and the poor, they have abandoned the Sermon on the Mount for the Free-Market Prosperity Gospel.

It’s ironic that those who wish the apocalypse to come will be greatly disappointed to learn that following Trump and the Golden Calf won’t quite get them invited to salvation, but rather eternal damnation for their role in perpetuating the climate crisis. No matter, as it shall soon sweep them away along with the rest of us.

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Historian here. Not to be pedantic, but I think this story and headline are phrased a little problematically. The implication is that the facility in question was one of the ten concentration camps in which 120,000 West Coast Japanese Americans (2/3 of them US citizens) spent much of WWII. In fact, none of those camps were in Oklahoma. Ft. Sill was a Justice Department facility during the war and a holding facility just for certain Japanese aliens (who weren’t allowed to be citizens because of their race) and Japanese Americans under particular US government suspicion.

Yes, the incarceration of Japanese Americans was unjustified, immoral, and racist, just like the policies of the Trump administration. But since our side cares about facts, let’s stick to them a bit more closely.

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Sure.

That “folded into” was not referenced in your original comment. Hence my response.

Yes, the fact is that they are locked up with no future in sight. Is this really what America is supposed to be about?

Health and Human Services personnel will oversee the children, not U.S. troops.

OK, but who will oversee the Health and Human Services personnel who are overseeing the children?

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And if it does neither of those, then I’m sure that spistory will hoonerize.

Some do and some don’t. They are all desperate to varying degrees. We must decide how we want to think of ourselves, in some semblance of Christian, compassionate terms or as those who pull up the ladder once we have climbed into the boat.

What we really have to ask is whether or not the words on the Statue of Liberty mean anything any more in the era of Trump. Perhaps, Trump won’t eventually ask that the entire statue be sent back since it embarrasses him, but merely perhaps just one arm so as to keep up the cognitive dissonance with Macron for negotiating purposes on tariffs.