Discussion: ACLU: White House NDA Is ‘Unconstitutional And Unenforceable’

Setting aside for the moment why anyone would want to work in this WH, well, except for all the opportunities for grift, it probably doesn’t matter that they aren’t enforceable - it’s either “sign this” or you don’t get the job.

Pretty sure the agreements could have required them to give up their children in the event of any breach, and they still would have signed.

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I hope the ACLU offered to defend any WH employee who’d signed one of these NDAs when and if it’s invoked by Trump.

Also, let some intrepid journalist ask SHS about her own NDA, and let her try to deny that she signed one. I’ll be watching today to see if that happens.

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The very act of signing one of these NDAs indicates that the staffer’s first loyalty is to Trump, not to the Constitution or to the people of the United States who pay the staffer’s salary. It shows they are unfit to serve. Reporters should ask every top staffer if they signed one.

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This will definitely make Putin think twice before he drops the “peepee” tape. Ten million dollars is a lot of rubles.

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There’s probably a clause in the NDA that stipulates they’re barred from commenting if they signed the NDA.

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She’ll refuse to answer, but yes, she should be asked.

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Signing these “Unconstitutional and Unenforceable” NDAs would be why so many WH staffers that got called before the various “investigative” committees would talk about certain things, even though executive privilege hasn’t been invoked, now would it?

(Sorry tortured sentence, but without the help of Gina Haspel)

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I have Miss Kitty slap me around while I recite the grocery list. I get a prize for pronouncing quinoa correctly.

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OT, but speaking of the ACLU, they’re back in Court in KC again today to finish off Kobach. We should be getting ( i hope) some news from Tierny on that later today. TPM could put that thread back up somewhere for discussion, at least until that trial is over.

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Once I know who they are, I do my best not to interact with them. Usually, you have the option of taking your business elsewhere, or of not engaging in idle sidewalk chitchat with neighbors whose lawn signs in 2016 revealed what kind of people they really are.

ETA: There’s no point in trying to engage in discussion with these people. Many of them will eventually figure out that they were bamboozled, but they need to come to that conclusion on their own.

You can lead a horse to water, but if you can get him to float on his back, you’ve really got something!

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I prefer the ACLU use its resources to defend people unwillingly harmed by this administration.

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I’m inclined to agree - these people knew what they were getting into. On the other hand, I think the tell-all books will serve a useful function, and I wouldn’t want to see these people deterred from writing them.

It’s also entertaining to imagine what will happen when one of the WH staffers tries to pull out his NDA when he’s being asked questions during a grand jury proceeding, or even a deposition.

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This is still pretty gut wrenching – IMO donald’s supporters are either ignorant or complicit.

Funny thing to believe that they are ignorant, and all they need to know is the facts and they will see the light. That approach was part of Hillary’s mistake. They don’t like facts, they don’t want to know the facts, and they will dispute the facts. So that leaves complicit or brain-washed. (Decades of Faux news a la Orwell’s 1984 — a quote: "O’Brien held up his left hand, its back towards Winston, with the thumb hidden and the four fingers extended. ‘How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?’ ‘And if the party says that it is not four but five — then how many?’ "

Psychological research comparing the “conservative versus the liberal brain” indicates that it isn’t about facts it is about the way their brains are wired, process information and become activated by fear.

Meanwhile I continue to believe that the MAJORITY of Americans are not like that (trumpian). Anecdotally, I do know of some donald voters who won’t repeat the mistake. One can hope that there will be enough when 2020 arrives if he is still around.

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SO his paranoid schizophrenia started say about 20 years ago or more ???
Shouldn’t be to hard to push him over the edge into total meltdown.
Seems we’re getting closer by the day and Mueller has just the ingredients we have been waiting for to finish him off…
Just wish he would start the blender and turn him into a bowl of slop to flush down the toilet.

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Unenforceable? Only because of the deep state conspiracy to bring trump down. Otherwise, anything trump had someone sign would work out in his favor.

Nailed it.

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However his on retainer lawyers will tie people without resources up in court for years. So yes unenforceable etc but will put people into poverty none the less

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Again Trump, AMERICA IS NOT YOUR DAMN MAFIA!

Go back to Trump Tower to run your hood! Serving as POTUS is NOT your cup of tea! So why not give it up, before you’re thrown out!!!

And the dopes who were so stupid as to sign it!
Exactly how stupid are the people in the WH.

Agree in theory, but sometimes it’s about getting that slam-dunk precedence-setting case litigated so you can blow the whole subject out of the water once and for all. In such cases, it’s the topic, not the defendant that matters…

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