Discussion: A Guide To Giuliani's Wildly Conflicting Claims About The Stormy Daniels Case

There is no guide to such egomania and insanity


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ABC’s George Stephanopoulos pressed Giuliani on Trump’s knowledge of the payment on Sunday, asking the former mayor if Trump learned about the payment to Daniels soon after the election.

“At some point, yes, but it could have been recently, it could have been awhile back. Those are the facts that we’re still working on and that, you know, may be in a little bit of dispute. This is more rumor than anything else,” Giuliani said on ABC’s “This Week.”

Rudy would ask Trump about it, but he's bright enough to know whatever came out of his goddamned pie hole would the the fevered hallucinations of a sociopathic narcissist.
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If I understand Giuliani, it’s a “fact” that there are rumors - basically.

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I understand Guiliani to say “we have not found the least damaging way to admit Donald paid her, so please wait for our layers constructing a plausible story-line”

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Actually, Rudy is either past it or suffering from early onset stupidity. He wants to be in the center of the action, but his reflexes are like a man stuck in glue. I actually feel sorry for him, because he did do some good things in the past. Sad.

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A truly comprehensive guide to Ghouliani would come with a neck brace. Just sayin’.

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I need to find me a rich person to keep sending me 35K in monthly installments without caring what or where the money was going. C’mon. Trump must have an accountant that ASKED THAT QUESTION.

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I think that’s Rudy’s translation of “not intended to be a factual statement”.

In order to establish an elaborate network of lies, you have to have a really good memory. I think Rudy is way past that stage of his cognitive capabilities. Rudy seems to be incapable of remembering what he had for breakfast, or, indeed, whether he had any breakfast at all.

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My favorite flick, well played

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“At some point, yes, but it could have been recently, it could have been awhile back. Those are the facts that we’re still working on and that, you know, may be in a little bit of dispute. This is more rumor than anything else,” Giuliani said on ABC’s “This Week.”

Stephanopoulos noted that Giuliani told Buzzfeed News that Cohen told Trump about the payment after the election.

“That’s one of the possibilities, and one of the rumors,” Giuliani replied.

Formerly credible Mayor and AG Guiliani is now a master of Trump-style flim-flammery.

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“Those are the facts that we’re still working on”

You know, “working on,” as in “fabricating, polishing, getting ready for market.” And the President always wants alternatives to choose from, so he can be sure his facts are the very best facts. Working on facts for this President isn’t easy, that I can tell you.

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The equivalent of Giuliani as a mob lawyer saying on TV


My client Ratso Cacavalle choked Rocco Delamerda with an electrical wire and then threw the body into the Hudson. But hey don’t believe me it’s a rumor.

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Rudy was showcasing his forthcoming primer, ‘Weasel Words and Their Usage.’
It includes the examples of their ineffective employment.

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Welcome to the “Schrödinger’s cat” defense based on the science of quantum mechanics. Trump both knew and didn’t know about the payment. The answer depends on when and where the question is asked. Brilliant!.

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Rudy’s antic performances are clearly being done purposefully - he wouldn’t be on television so damned much otherwise. Even though (or, who knows, maybe because) he’s clearly lost a step, the administration is choosing to repeatedly send him out as a representative. That says a lot.

Everybody involved here is improvising week-by-week. The gambit is that making a months-old story that we all already know about into a campaign finance issue will buy them some more time. Rudy is the sideshow they want right now, at least until the next indictment or leak or whatever blows up, at which point he will be loudly tossed aside and declared a deep state implant.

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Don’t you all feel like with this group, generally the closest you get to any essence of truth is the first utterances before the brain starts to work and the survival instinct of lie lie lie kicks in.

Basically the truth is Trump obviously knew about all of this. He knew that there would be claims, because he knows what he does, did or could be framed for doing, because there had been claims in the past, he knew he needed a trustworthy liar sycophant and who better to do that than fake Russian Gangster Cohen and all of this has been them distancing Trump from the mess of himself to keep the Russian gravy train flowing in hopes that he will just pardon them because all of them are just smart enough to be dangerously stupid. Then 9/11 Rudy comes in, and forgetting which hat he is wearing utters a version of the version of the truth not remembering which lie to tell and then the next “x” number of days is the retruth branding process that is Trump. By that point we arrive at a lie wrapped in a lie and coated in bronzer and then peed on with lies and the media establishment just throws up in its own mouth and walks away.

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If you find Rudy’s gyrations and contortions bizarre, read about the GOP Roman Circus going on in Missouri in this St. Louis Post Dispatch article:

Former MO Senator John Danforth apparently has completely forgotten the memory of his dear old friend forced to commit suicide as a victim of a Republican Alternative Facts dark money/dirty tricks campaign. Danforth’s law firm is now representing GOP Governor Eric Greitens in his two felony indictments.

Every high ranking Republican mentioned are bobbing and weaving as only hypocritical conservatives can. The degree of corruption within the GOP has reached monumental proportions yet the media tells us that it’s a both sides problem?

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Perhaps Donald Trump will go to number one with a bullet:

Shot in the ass and you’re to blame,
You give law a bad name.
You played your part, I pulled your chain
But you gave law a bad name.

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