Discussion: 'A Big Hoax!': After Week Of Walkbacks, Trump Returns To Doubting Russia Meddling

I miss the good old days when a tweeter was part of a stereo speker and a traitor was Brett Favre playing for the Vikings.

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So Gowdy identified a “breaking point” - a line, that if Trump crossed it, all of the top defense and security leaders should resign… and now… less than 24 hours later … Trump is apparently goose-stepping - flamboyantly - over said line… like he is daring them to quit…

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He is not normal, he was never normal, and he is not going to get normal.

They wanted to pretend we did not see Helsinki, but we did, and of course Trump is back because he never left.

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Did he pivot yet?

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“Who are you gonna believe, me or your lyin’ eyes??!?” Let’s start putting pressure on Congress to act. He really does need to be removed from office. The evidence is clear.

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Idjit.

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so what if they quit?
You get the Brian Benczkowski’s of the world back-filled in their places. Total Russian-compromised traitors.
I’ll take Gen-1 tRump picks where there was at least a semblance of vetting over the lunatics he alone would try to replace them with.

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What you’ve seen in the last 12-18 hours is a Trump misdirection play. He was not feeling good about how the Carter Page/FISA story was playing, nor the stories on Butina and Russia generally. The Coats interview definitely bothered him. I’m sure the Gowdy and Rubio appearances bothered him as well. Schiff always bothers him. He is basically coming to terms with abject failure on the foreign policy front and is lashing out.
I think what also bothered him is frankly mixed polling from his base on his performance. While his base still nominally supports him, support for his positions on Russia were very low. He was around 50%-60% support among GOP on Russia related questions depending on how the question was framed. That translates to a deflated base and a net loss in votes because Dems and Indies are motivated by Russia to turn out to vote and to vote Democratic.

He used the Iran tweet to change up the tenor and tone of press coverage and then came back to ‘witch hunt’ so that the message gets through without as much resistance from the press.

Dems just need to ignore him and vote while continuing to press the case on Russia, treason, health care, taxes, immigration.

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Not really, the person in charge of damage control had to get a nights sleep, that’s all.

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Did he pivot yet?

No, that was his crossover move.

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All you need to remember
Distractions Distractions Distractions
For the base

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100% thoroughly OT but here’s a mini-break from the twitter-distractionation.

Star Trek Discovery Season 2 Trailer dropped:

buckle up

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I’m more curious as to whether the courts can ignore him. What will the trial judge do when Trump tweets throughout the Manafort trial about how unfair it all is, Manafort was set up, a victim of some Deep State conspiracy? I’m trying to remember a good example of a sitting President publicly commenting on, and baldly attempting to influence, a major criminal trial as it was being conducted. No doubt Trump will go there. How does the Judicial branch react?

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remember, he’s not obstructing, he’s fighting back.

Totally en-codified from the Magna Carta to the US Constitution.

IANAL but I do watch NCIS, and the fighting back defense is well established in legal canon.

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While I would not believe him even if all he said was, “hello,” I am still trying to square this statement …

“So President Obama knew about Russia before the Election,” Trump tweeted. “Why didn’t he do something about it? Why didn’t he tell our campaign? Because it is all a big hoax, that’s why, and he thought Crooked Hillary was going to win!!!”

with the report that Trump received a memo while still a candidate detailing their involvement to boost his campaign. Also, it is frustrating how there is nary a mention of Republican leaders like McConnell who blocked release of this information for political reasons.

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I totally agree. The Dems need to stay focused on the Prize - control of BOTH houses in the next Congress. They have picked the right topics, and by the fall, the economy will fall into their laps, also.

WRT Trump’s utterances - it is all blather and noise. He is obviously rattled as he should be. Mueller, I’m sure, is keep track of every word and tweet. The Media should just stop covering them and concentrate on the issues people care about - healthcare, income inequality, environmental policy reversals, the rise in overt racism, etc. None of this is a pretty picture for Trump for anyone but his base.

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The Incompetent Guilty as Hell President Who Cried "Witch Hunt Rigged, a Scam!”

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I think they’ve already ruled on these things (though I believe there is one more ruling left to go). Judge Ellis and Judge Jackson have both dismissed Manafort complaints that he can’t get a fair trial. At the end of the day a lot of Americans don’t follow politics that closely and Manafort is a known but still obscure figure. Trump hasn’t made Manafort the main subject of too many tweets, and this trial isn’t based on ‘collusion’ but on garden variety tax fraud, false statements, and money laundering claims. In that sense, Mueller strategized this very well by going with a variant of an Al Capone approach to get Manafort while holding most of his more politically charged ‘collusion’ claims relating to American collaborators of the Russians close to his vest.

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"President Donald Trump on Sunday was back to referring to “a big hoax.”

I’ll take ‘what are the signs of late stage neurosyphilis’ for 400 Alex.

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Almost right, IMO. What is happening is actually slightly more dangerous and considerably more foolish.

Republicans “shift” on the Russian question because they see Russia as a political ally now, one that can quite literally change election outcomes for them…which btw, resolves a very real problem they have been grappling with for some time; that they don’t have popular support with voters and the changing demographic makeup of this country is exasperating that fundamental issue.

The foolish part of this is the assumption that Russia is supportive of the GOP. There is no ideological meeting of the minds there, its just that the GOP is more vulnerable due to what I outlined above. But continuing on this path, a time will come where Russia will make demands that the GOP doesn’t want to concede, and that election manipulation will go against them…and it will be even easier.

The fundamental problem is they are trying to “cut a deal” from a position of extreme weakness with an adversary. That will never turn out well.

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