Discussion: 3 More Supreme Court Candidates Meet With Trump

Everybody is focused on Roe v Wade, but for me that is only a side show. The real danger is Trump will do what Presidents have done since the 1960s and appoint another corporatist to the court. He will pick someone like Alito or Roberts eager to put the needs of the government or the corporation ahead of the needs of the individual. Over and over again that is who has been appointed. We are always distracted by the hot button issues like abortion, but most of the court’s decisions center around the eternal conflict between the individual and the government or the corporation. I want somebody who will think about the needs of the individual when deciding the seemingly routine cases. .

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Just get on with it.

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Though people talk about how Trump loves the trappings of the presidency – Air Force One, his Diet Coke button, getting salutes from military brass – and though His Oafish Highness clearly does love those things, I think this is the part his ego really craves. Supplicant, approach the throne! Highly qualified, brilliant people praise him one on one, with literally no chance of him facing criticism. Tailor-made process, if you’re a narcissist.

He’d drag this out for six months if he could.

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He’s gonna go with whichever one genuflected longest and deepest and kissed his, er, ring most ardently, while swearing allegiance and promising that he’ll never go do prison for his traitorous behavior.

Qualifications have nothing to do with anything.

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  ---  Illegitimate President == Illegitimate Nominations ---
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Nobody’s distracted; the awful fact is that any Trump appointee will further enshrine corporatism and the power of money in our system, and Democrats across the country have been increasingly vocal about the need to counter and constrain those forces, from the local to the federal levels. But it’s not stuff that falls easily into your individual-against-the-larger-entity prism: Janus, after all, was ostensibly decided on the basis of an individual’s right to freeload off a union’s efforts on workers’ behalf. And with all due respect, maybe Roe’s a side show for you, but women’s lives are literally at stake – my mother was haunted all her life by the experience of washing her best friend’s blood off her bathroom floor as her friend was rushed to the hospital after a botched illegal abortion, and countless women are haunted by countless such stories. We’re all well aware of all that’s at stake, thanks; and we’d appreciate it if you’d also show a bit of that awareness.

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By sideshow, I don’t mean abortion isn’t important, but it is only one issue. There are many other issues coming to the court every term. Most of the decisions are ignored by our herd press. Those decisions can erode our freedoms in ways subtle and profound. I am just saying we need to think about something in addition to abortion when we consider an appointment to the Supreme Court.

Honey we can think all we want; you can spend days and nights thinking about it. Not going to change a thing.

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I get it. The Democratic party is focused like a laser on reproductive rights, as it should be. I am just saying that we should be aware that for decades we have been getting Republican appointments to the Federal bench who are inclined to vote for the rich and powerful when their wants conflict with the rights of regular people. A lot of those judges are nothing more than active Republican politicians with lifetime appointments.

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I know that and we all know that and there is nothing we can do about it. We’re going to get what we get.

Many of us were all too aware of this when we voted for Mrs. Clinton in 2016. Too bad there were lots of people that thought her speeches and her emails were more important.

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Hey @tena, after the SCOTUS rules that human life starts at conception, will states need to start charging women who miscarry with manslaughter?

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That’s up to the states. If their legislatures want to go there they can try but I don’t happen to think they are going to be in charge all over the place after November and with each succeeding election we should recover more states.

But they can try anything.

@ronbyers - all of this should have been thought about during the campaign and all those people who hated Hillary so much maybe shouldn’t have. It’s too damn late now.

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I keep thinking about his speech in Duluth: ‘You ever notice they always call the other side ‘the elite.’ The elite! Why are they elite? I have a much better apartment than they do. I’m smarter than they are. I’m richer than they are. I became president and they didn’t.’ The ‘elite’ having to come to ask him for a job goes towards feeding that bottomless pit of neediness.

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Wouldn’t it be up to the cops and the local prosecutors? Seems impossible to claim that abortion is murder but that miscarriage is not manslaughter…

Well it’s up to a legislature to make a law that says that so that cops and local law enforcement and prosecutors can either act on or not.

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This could put the “Happy” in Happy 4th of July…

I mean under existing law. Manslaughter is simply the killing of another person, right?

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It depends on how it’s defined by state statute. I’m not trying to be difficult but states actually do have slightly different elements for lesser included offenses like manslaughter.

I can’t imagine that anyone would complain about a miscarriage to the DA’s office or the cops so how would they know in the first place?

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