Discussion: 3 Dead In Northern California Shooting, Gunman Killed After Wounding Children

I don’t think it’s going to happen in my lifetime, but I think it will happen if the nation survives. It only makes sense. That one and the 3d - they are both anachronisms.

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But remember now is not the time to talk about gun control.

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The good guys don’t win, they just eventually quit losing, quite often.

Its not too early for anything, its way past time and thousands and thousands of lives late in fact.
Besides, in truth we are talking about it, often and regularly and that doesn’t help either.

The solution is action to limit the purchase of weapons and a full on ban of all military styled weapons without loopholes because they’re pink or any horseshit like that.
Register every damned weapon in the country and its owner and every time it changes hands. Whomsoever is against that is suspect and needs to be investigated further.
The penalties must be severe because ignoring the laws is causing mass murder and that’s very severe. So its just fair.

Tip toeing around the subject and protecting the source of the calamity is the problem.
Its the fucking guns being unregulated, over-owned and protected far more than human life, that is the problem.

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And Rancho Tehama is where the nuttiest of the nutters go to be away from things, for when “TSHTF” and they have to rise up as the new Patriotic Murkan WOLVERIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNES so they can overthrow the Marxist Oblammo Youth Hitlery NWO New Black Panthers that have been armed and directed by George Soros to Communize our beloved Murka.

They’d retreat higher up the hills, but it’s all FEDERAL land there, and you know what that means – MAOIST COMMNIZZUM!!

This dude was just having a bad morning but the loaded guns under the mattress, in the cookie jar and on top of the bookcase on the bible were screaming at him to man up and not let the sissification set in.

I mean why talk to your kids, parents, neighbors or a crisis center when blasting with your blasters is right at your fingertips.

The nutso gun conundrum; can’t live without 'em, dying meaningless death with 'em.

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He had the guns illegally.

You don’t have to repeal the 2nd. There is a very good case that the 2nd’s intent is to allow citizens (and not just militia) to own firearms. The key to fixing this problem is to control semiautomatic weapons. There is already precedence. Fully automatic weapons used to be legal. They were found to be too dangerous, so they were restricted. The same could be done with semiautomatics. A huge factor in these mass killings is the power of semiautomatics. Focusing on assault weapons is politically costly, and would be ineffective even if banning were successful. Spend the political capital on restricting semiautomatics!

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3 more dead conservatives
thoughts and prayers
time for cake

oh let them kill each - soon the problem will self correct
guns are just nature’s way of culling conservatives

My point exactly. A “well regulated militia” according to the current pro-gun crop when discussing the 2nd Amendment means virtually all of our citizenry. A “well regulated militia” doesn’t leave guns lying around everywhere to where even complete nuts can just grab one and go. My argument was a tongue-in-cheek way of pointing out how we’re not, in fact, a “well regulated militia” as outlined by the 2nd Amendment. We’re actually doing the opposite of what the 2nd Amendment requires.

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Almost right. The last line should read:

White shooter: Thought and prayers - and a silencer (with no background check)

Maybe Pope Francis can come out with a statement that “prayers” without action is an empty gesture - Ryan being the good Catholic he is would get it then, right?

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Trump tweeted this last night:

May God be with the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI and Law Enforcement has arrived.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2017

Wrong shooting. JFC.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-shooting-wrong-tweet_us_5a0bedf9e4b0bc648a0ebb0a

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“Nor did sheriff’s officials give details on the domestic violence call.”

White dude. Expect the same sort of cover-up silence and “oops, we’re incompetent” bullshit from the 2nd or 3rd most conservative county in CA as we got with Vegas.

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The NRA and 2nd Amendment wingnuts believe a M.A.D. policy is the only answer to save us from mad men. No one is safe until everyone has mutually assured their own destruction with guns.

"The gunman’s sister, Sheridan Orr, said her brother had struggled with mental illness throughout his life and at times had a violent temper.

She said Neal had “no business” owning firearms."


Sorry, but the GOP and its NRA masters deeply disagree with you on that:

“On February 2, 2017 the House passed H.J. Res. 40 which prevents the Social Security Administration from reporting to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) the names of individuals with a severe, medically documented mental disability who also require a designated representative to oversee their benefits. This reporting requirement was included in 1968 gun safety legislation. This resolution makes it easier for someone with a documented mental disability to buy a gun. UPDATE: 14. The President signed H.J. Res. 40 on February 28, 2017”

“On March 16, 2017 the House passed H.R. 1181 which alters current law requiring the Veterans Administration to provide the names of veterans who have been classified as “mentally incompetent” and cannot handle their own financial affairs to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). H.R. 1181 requires the VA to obtain a court determination before a veteran’s name can be sent to the NICS, although the legislation does not provide funding or a framework for this new court process, which currently does not exist. The legislation is also retroactive, which means that 170,000 people already on the NICS list would be automatically removed, making it easier for them to buy a gun”

Seen one mass shooting thought and prayed about them all.

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I was thinking spray paint - it’s in a locked cage at the local San Antonio Home Depot. In some supermarkets in Houston baby formula, condoms and pregnancy tests were locked up, too (spray paint wasn’t, though).

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Babies don’t.ever.trust.them. thieves all.

Six minutes shooting up an elementary school and the sheriff and his deputies just can’t seem to get out of that damn donut shop. SIX MINUTES! Fire those bastards.

And Mom, you’re complicit. Way to go.

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