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Very obviously, this is Obamaâs fault, or Rick Perryâs, depending on your partisan slant. Everything is easy on the internet, but less so in the real world.
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ââŚTexas Health Presbyterian HospitalâŚâ
Do I wait for conservative elitists to tell me that this proves God is angry at Presbyterians, or can I get started on that spin ahead of their tv shows?
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Was this victim wearing the splash shield/mask combo the previous one was equipped with or something better/worse?
The scary part is the question of who this person was in contact with since his/her first encounter with the patient.
This virus seems to have a fairly lengthy gestation period where symptoms are not immediate. That may mean this health care worker could have infected others. I hope this was not the case. I also hope the plasma from the doctor that was cured can help this worker.
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Thatâs incorrect. A person is not contagious if the virus is in a gestation period. And its only transferable by contact with the bodily fluids of someone infected or dead from the virus.
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Oh Ok, thanks Davey.
No protocols-corporate hospital wanted nurses to come up with their own, 1 annual training session with protective gear, Duncan said to have sat among other patients for more than an hour at hospitalâs direction and samples from Mr. Duncan were sent through the hospitals tube system without precautionsâŚthere could be 100+ infections from this for-profitâs âmistakesââŚ
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Hospitals being what they are today, folks need to understand that they work for the shareholders - not patients.
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Thatâs true, but you left out a critical element that seems to be largely unreported. Unlike most other virusâ, contact with the Ebola virus has an extremely high transmission rate, on the order of 95%. Aids, for example, has a transmission rate of about 5% (or even lower). Iâm not referring to the R-zero, but to the chance of the virus getting into your system once youâre exposed.
In regards to what the media is feeding us, obviously something is not adding up. There is story after story about how your chances of catching Ebola is virtually nil, yet highly protected, trained professionals are catching it. Well, duh. There is no one near me that has Ebola. What we need to know is, how contagious is it if the guy in the cube next to me has it. They want you to believe itâs low. I donât believe that. It feels like I am being fed half truths.
And another thing that doesnât add up. We hear that flights shouldnât be banned from infected countries because it would hamper relief efforts. A straw horse if ever Iâve seen one. It would be trivial to allow government flights, and specific relief flights. 10,000 people per day are flying out of infected countries. People want to get out of there, and I donât blame them.
The government needs to take drastic measures, now.
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Uh-ohâŚSay it ainât so. Meanwhile, more cable news hysteria ensues. I suggest we seal the borders of Texass and deny all flight requests in and out of the state until they get their shit together or their house in order, whichever comes first. Weâll send in Doctors without Borders to treat the infirm and set up a military contingent to deal with the local population in the meantime. Howâs that for a plan? Isolate fucking TexassâŚI always assumed they were all somewhat contagious to the rest of us, even before we had this ebola problem.
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It could be as simple as someone taking off their protective gloves in the wrong way while mistakenly handling the outside of the material or any of the other protective materials, then soon after rubbing their eyes or nose, or using the bathroom to wipe their ass after they got out of their gear. Protocols are important to follow for a reason. If they havenât been recently trained or have overseers monitoring the process to make sure its followed to a TâŚthereâs gonna be more problems for these health workers in days to come. They have to get that part right from the outset.
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And TX conservatives argue that abortion clinics should have the same level of safety as surgical hospitals like this one? Will they be offering ebolabortions?
Well, thatâs a good point, because we know how this probably works with something like ebola: lowest man on the totem pole is probably getting the assignment because the up-n-ups canât be bothered to be put at risk and that means less experienced neophytes handling it.
Duncan would have been better off going to a womenâs health center rather than a for profit Texas hospital.
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I was speaking with a friend last night who a surgeon who does contract work at a number of facilities. His assessment of the situation was grim; he says he regularly sees facilities with glaring OSHA violations and that with the way places are run in 2014 that is pretty normal.
I am hearing that refrain most from those who donât believe in government.They donât see a need until they do. Remember when Rick Perry said ââWhen we came into the nation in 1845, we were a republic, we were a stand-alone nation,â and one of the deals was, we can leave anytime we want. So weâre kind of thinking about that again.â
The irony is that, the right wing anti government/fear mongering machine always wants the government to step in but never wants to fund itâŚmagical thinking at itâs best.
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Now thereâs this from AP (excerpted from the Houston Chronicle):
NEW YORK (AP) â Health officials are alerting airline passengers who were on the same flight as a Texas nurse who was diagnosed with Ebola the next day.
The 132 passengers were on Frontier Airlines Flight 1143 from Cleveland to Dallas-Fort Worth on Monday.
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On the local news in Chicago, there was a brief report that the Nurses Union stated that the Dallas Hospital did not issue proper equipment right away. While the hospital is saying it doesnât know how the nurses became infected, it might be trying covering its ass.
The CDC rethinking itâs strategy is the best news Iâve heard on this.
OMG. You should read some of the comments that follow that article.
No. Donât. Horrible, horrible people.