“I’m deeply skeptical that all the pieces will come together just right to hold the House,” one Republican strategist
working on a number of House raceslooking plaintively toward Moscow told TPM.
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Here’s how bad the Senate is. Here in San Francisco, thousands of miles from KY, I’ve seen bumper stickers saying Abajo con McConnell. Maybe they’re voters from KY or maybe they’re just some good and pissed off voters who know where the rot in the senate begins.
@jootjoint Most of this will be the Ds platform and we’ll start hearing more about it as the election gets closer. People seem to think the party is rudderless and it’s not.
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I hope so, however, I’ll believe it when I see it…
Oh for fucks sake.
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If Dim Leadership stays the fuck away the rank and file should do ok, however, I expect The Leadership to begin to muck the works up.
Why do you and so many here hate optimistic news? Why do you all keep coming back to we’re not gonna win, Russian, crooked, no turnout, dystopian shit like that again and again. Take the optimistic POV and run with with and if you can’t keep it to yourself because it’s goddamn depressing to hear presumed members of the party telling other members of the party their party sucks at everything.
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I’m glad to read this news. The Nervous Nellies here seem to be out of proportion predicting doom, gloom and loss.
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This.
Believe me, I live in Texas, I have had reason to criticize the Democratic Party a lot over the years. But it’s incredibly lazy thinking to so reflexively hit the Democratic Party for running a candidate who not only won a significant majority of the popular vote, was also able to also fight off a massive election interference effort from a hostile foreign power down to the narrowest margin in just the right states. This whole “Democrats are in disarray/stupid/incompetent/corrupt” storyline is not a lot different than blaming a sexual assault victim for wearing the wrong shoes.
There is a very good reason Trump in in the Oval Office and it isn’t because Hillary was lacking in either body parts or strategy. As for Congress, when it all comes out in the wash, let’s just say it is extremely unlikely that those races were left alone when all the infrastructure for interference was already in place and in use.
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He’s only in office due to a fucked up EC and questionable electorial process, similar to Dubya.
Edit: Or did he?
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YOU are one of the Democrats the party needs to win. It’s not a bunch of people standing in the wings hoping and praying and waiting for results.
@1gg Defeatism is about the worst approach to take, hoping we don’t lose, maybe we’ll win, oh, woe is us. Damn, do what you have to do to get people out to vote, and it’ll happen.
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Because of the EC we need enormous turnout and we didn’t get it either with dubya or PuPPet. Then we gnash our teeth, oh we’re doomed, what we will we do, blah, blah, blah. What will it take to make people understand (paraphrasing Obama) we are the people we’re counting on for change, instead of abandoning hope over 100 days out when not one ballot has been cast.
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Questionable? It’s an outright dark ages process and completely undemocratic.
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The main reason I have some optimism is because I think the real differences are going to be at the local level, not the national.
This is a grass roots thing and it will work if we do the work, persone to person, door to door, street by street, precinct, city, county, on up.
IMHO, the DNC needs to let the local folks lead and then back them up. Local candidates know what’s important for their constituents…they sure better this time around.
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That’s antihistorical bullshit.
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“I’m very scared.”
And we haven’t even taken him from his mother and put him in a cage.
Yet.
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If you get anyone to see the irony, let me know.
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I read “wipe the slate clean” as, well, “get over it already”.
Let bygones be bygones. Stop litigating the past. We’ve got bigger fish to fry. Face forward, not back.
You on the other hand seem to be reading the comment as a call to purge - personnel, policy, strategy.
Maybe I’m reading both of you wrong, but for what it’s worth I’m in the ‘stop shitting in your own nest’ camp here.
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You got it.
My advice is when things go wrong, do a little grief work over it (deny, blame, rage, cry, etc.) then let it go and start fuguring out what you can do to make things go right.
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The usual suspects. This thread brings them out in force, too, lol.
I just write them off as lazy thinkers or outright trolls. I always picture them in the person of my old precinct chair, the long-haired aging hippy who was pissed off when people showed up to the precinct meetings and he couldn’t just grumble about how no one wanted to do all this important work like he was doing now, like they did back in the 70s; put his friends down for the county convention; and go hang out at depressing official election-day campaign gatherings at Scholtz’s Garden.
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