Deutsche Bank Gives Tantalizing Clue But No Confirmation About Trump Tax Returns | Talking Points Memo

Dear Mr. Kennedy,

Destroy the copies NOW and we release your wife and children.

Sincerely,
Your Friend in Krasnoyarsk

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But when did he have his Capital One stuff? Wasn’t that earlier? So may have reached whatever time that they destroy old documents after.

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"The longtime Trump lender told the Second Circuit Court of Appeals that “extensive searches” within the bank showed that it has the returns for at least one individual whose identity was redacted from the letter, as well as the same documents for people “who may constitute ‘immediate family.’”

As if they are in some creaky building with basements and an old fashioned manila folder file system in cabinets that the Letters of the Alphabet marking the drawers, are somewhat dimmed by the passage of time, making it hard for their low level clerk to find.

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Good point. You’d think that high-vis customer files would be strategically locked away somewhere very specific and well-tracked (to keep prying curiosity-seekers away)… Shouldn’t need any searching to find it, that implies you’ve lost control of the files and don’t know who may be accessing what…

Some of their other customers should probably ask them about it.

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Absolutely. I haven’t seen info on the parameters of his Capital One activity (time or size). Deutsche Banks were 100’s of millions, though.

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They are criminally sloppy recordkeepers, too. That’s my point.

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That’s why I’m thinking it may make sense that Capital One may not have retained them any longer, thought that was older business. DB’s is definitely current and ongoing.

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Trying to list who all we’re talking about:

Donald J. Trump
Donald J. Trump, Jr.
Eric Trump
Ivanka Trump
Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust
Trump Organization, Inc.
Trump Organization LLC
DJT Holdings LLC
DJT Holdings Managing Member LLC
Trump Acquisition LLC
Trump Acquisition, Corp.

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Why would he sue to block Capital One if they didn’t have anything? Didn’t want to give the game away the DB was the more important target? Billable hours?

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some hopefully informed speculation

This is from the Schedule A attachment to the Deutsche Bank Subpoena

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There are two names redacted. Assuming they are in alphabetical order, the names would probably be Barron and Tiffani Trump. I think that for a couple of reasons

  1. neither of them seem to have any connection to Trump’s businesses
  2. neither of them are plaintiffs in the case

The Deutsche Bank letter refers have the returns of “parties not named in the Subpoena, but who may constitute ‘immediate family’”. In other words, the Bank does have the returns of at least two other people. Best guess here is Melania, Trump’s sister Maryanne, and/or Jared. If they had been named in the indictment, I think each of them would have joined the lawsuit.

And I also think that the bank has the tax returns of Trump as well as Jr, Eric, Ivanka, and possibly Tiffani. There is space for all four names in the redacted part of the document…

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Oh, the dust! And that musty smell. Don’t get me started.

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Your post raises a point that could be more damaging to Trump than his tax returns, who were his real partners/what help did he get for the loan. That is the bank file will identify any other major player(s) who put their thumb on the scale to help Trump get some of his loans and in fact may even be silent partners in some of his ventures.

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They were subpoenaing other financial records, not sure the list. That tax returns might be in them has been a possibility, but they weren’t the target.

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Regardless of whether or not they owned their own businesses, I have always had to provide copies of my clients tax returns to them to use when they don’t have their copies and need to apply for mortgage.

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or the Harry Potter world

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David Cay Johnston suggested that they may have gotten “draft” taxes and the difference between what he told the banks and what he actually filed may be an issue. I don’t know why any bank would accept a “draft” tax return, though. He suggested perhaps documentation showing the “inflation of assets for loan application purposes” which I assume is financial fraud, is what they’re looking to find.

ETA @castor_troy

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calm down. The Bank provided the names to the court. The court redacted the names before releasing the letter to the public, which was the correct thing to do, insofar as the validity of the subpoena (and thus the disclosure of the names) remains unresolved.

The Bank has made it clear that it is ready and willing to full comply with the subpoena. The only hold up is that Trump sued the bank, and the House was granted intervenor status.

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:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

That would be exactly what we’re looking for…

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May, may, may have. Yet this was sufficient due diligence to enable multi $Billion loans. I’d be interested in looking into the individual/individuals who approved, what did they get in return?

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AFAIK, Capital One was the bankwhere Trump kept his personal (and possibly, business) checking accounts. For instance, the check from Trump’s personal account sent to Cohen as repayment for stormy daniels? It was a capital one account. As was the Trump Revocable Trust account where other money came from…

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