The deputy attorney general on Tuesday acknowledged that the department is looking into fake Electoral College certificates submitted by Trump supporters in the wake of the 2020 election.
Funny how it’s never Democrats.
Attorneys general in Michigan and New Mexico said this month that they’d referred the fake documents to federal prosecutors.
Mmmm, no. What they said is that they had referred their criminal investigations to federal prosecutors. That, of course, includes the alternafraud docs. But, to have a criminal investigation to refer, you have to, you know, investigate. Anyone hear of any investigation action by the AGs of AZ, GA, NV, PA, WI? Saying wishful things about how they hope the feds do something is not a referral. Michigan AG Nessel refers GOP electors review to federal prosecutors
ETA: neither is a single, lone congressman asking the FBI to look into it is a referral.
“What went on was certainly intentionally misleading,” Republican election lawyer Ben Ginsberg told NPR. “But I think it is one of those areas probably not contemplated by those who drafted the laws, so the specific statutes are not immediately obvious — as bad as this was.”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but aren’t each and every one of these criminal frauds guilty of signing a statement – notarized, even – legally attesting to the truthfulness of their representations?
Continuing the discussion from Deputy Attorney General Says DOJ Looking Into Fake Trump Electors | Talking Points Memo:
What did Ginsburg mean? My take is that the AGs should throw the book at the crooks.
Sometimes a new drug emerges as a recreational thing and for a while they don’t get around to making it illegal. That was the case for a time with LSD. But it would be one hell of a thing if you couldn’t charge people for an attempt to steal a presidential election precisely because that attempt was so unheard-of, so outrageous, so beyond the bounds of anything ever contemplated that there was no law it violated to base a charge on. Rudy should be in the deepest, most dank and vermin-ridden dungeon we have, and if we don’t have one bad enough then one should be built, and so should every freak in the previous administration who countenanced this for one moment and anyone else involved and of course I mean anyone including the omelet-station guy at Mar-a-Lago.
Funny little detail about this caper, each of the seven alternafraud elector states sent in four copies of their certification: To the President of the Senate, the National Archives, their state’s Secretary of State, and the Chief Judge of the federal District Court containing their state’s capitol. I wonder what the chief judges and his/her clerks did when they received these second, differing electoral vote certifications. You’d think a referral to someone with authority to investigate might be appropriate, especially since the text of the certification made it clear that each one had also been sent on to Congress. something something misprision of felony something
Wisconsin has also referred.
No, it has not, based on that article. There is no mention of an investigation, or a criminal referral, or even referring just the certification document. All that’s there is a WI congressman asking the FBI to look into it. That is not an investigation, and that is not a referral of an investigation.
Designer insurrection.
Many of the old machines in the big cities were pretty shady, decades ago. But when we have people grumbling that we don’t fight dirty like the GOP, I have to wonder just what they envision. You can’t wonder how decent people can support the Republican party precisely because of that and then turn around and say we should do it too. All we fucking have to do is turn out and vote. We don’t have to sell our souls to win. All we have to do is show the hell up. That’s what I don’t get.
the fake slates gained new attention when MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow noted they appeared to follow a template, suggesting coordination between states
There’ another word for coordination thing, begins with a C, but it’s not collusion . . . 
This needs to be prosecuted aggressively. Make an example out of them. Get these people out of politics and in to jail for several years.
Can’t find anything. The docs certainly weren’t notarized, and the only even slightly relevant requirement in 3 U.S.C. is that they be sent to the various parties via registered mail. There is a certain absense of truthiness to this part:
WE, THE UNDERSIGNED, being the duly elected and qualified Electors for President and Vice President…do hereby certify the following:
…
IN WITNESS WHEREOF, we, the undersigned have…subscribed our respective names.
You’re right. It doesn’t look like any other state has formally referred cases to the DoJ as far as I can tell.
The Trump Doral Resort?
It’s funny, I can’t recall any of the people who signed these fake documents speaking up recently. Maybe some intrepid reporters could get them on the record explaining their actions.
They really thought they were going to “legitimately” overturn the election. I still can’t wrap my head around that.
" New Doc From Durham Hints At Probe’s Direction"
Yeah, it’s headed here…
Dude is a partisan kkklown and his charges against Sussman are an insult to the justice system. Garland needs to reign this fishing expedition in, but can’t because it would be used as a rallying cry and would only further politically pollute the whole thing.