Cop Meant To Tase Motorist But Shot Him Instead In ‘Accidental Discharge’ Chief Says | Talking Points Memo

Why are they flying a non-approved flag from a public owned police station? Seems like they aren’t trying to calm things down at all but just challenging the City Council and the citizens of the city to take them on… I hope they do take abusive cops to task too. Someone should, and certainly flying such a flag is the opposite signal of taking personal responsibility for irresponsible behavior.

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So she’s either terrible under pressure and shouldn’t be carrying a lethal weapon (if she’s telling the truth) or she was setting up an alibi by screaming “taser” - kind of a South Park “they’re coming right for us!” kind of thing.

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Usually a police stun gun is trimmed in yellow, or yellow-green. She wasn’t very mindful.

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It is a demonstration that they do not see their role as “to protect and serve”, but rather see themselves vis-a-vis society as the enemy in a war. We need decent, thoughtful, enlightened, public-spirited citizens in police forces, not power-abusing racist goons with considerable legal protection for all manner of egregious crimes they commit on the job.

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Is this the new game then? They’ve gotten tired of the conflicting commands thing or yelling “stop resisting” while they toss someone around who’s not resisting at all, so now they’re going to just shout “taser” repeatedly while blowing people’s heads off?

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Isn’t it time to have the police lock their guns in the car. They can always go and get them. They have film going of the arrest. If they are threatened, they can back off. Not having a gun on your hip would be less threatened. If the person they stopped threatens them they can always pick them up latter.

It’s time to figure out how to keep police from reaching for their guns.

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Clearly, she was terrified out of her mind to the degree she no longer knew her left from right.
Yet, she is a very senior officer with years of training that clearly she failed to have when needed for precisely this type encounter.
Which in essence means she is untrainable. Especially as the man was unarmed with back to her getting into his vehicle and not a threat to her…even so she forgets her left from right and where her gun is?!

This is negligent manslaughter by a “professionally trained* senior officer

Never again should she be licensed to use deadly force.

Ever.

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Welllll…a question. A service revolver weighs how much vs. a taser? plus one was worn on the dominant side, and one on the weaker side, and this cop cannot tell left from right?
Sumpthin’s not computing here.

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Covered on the other thread. The one she was just likely carrying is, by design, very similar in weight and feel to a standard service weapon. Unless she actively took her eyes off the suspect to inspect her weapon–not exactly recommended in an active situation-- very plausible that she wouldn’t have felt anything different enough to trigger to her that something was off.

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Something similar happened on Bay Area Rapid Transit in 2009.

The Transit Police officer who killed an unarmed man – by firing his pistol instead of his taser – was convicted of involuntary manslaughter and spent about a year in prison.

CA: Former Transit Cop Convicted in California Subway Shooting to Go Free | Mass Transit (masstransitmag.com)

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A pound or less for the taser, versus two and a half pounds for a loaded Glock.

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Since when is a hanging deodorant/orniment probable cause? And do cops keep a few in the car to hang up retrospectively if things go sideways?

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Here’s the thing…cops are scared to death at every encounter because they assume that every joeblow is armed, thanks to the NRA and gun nuts who insist that firearms are the answer to everything. As long as they have a gun, they are going to shoot first and worry about the consequences later.
This may very well have been a cop who could not think under pressure, but a young man is dead for making a stupid decision to run rather than face the problems that he caused for himself.
Neither one of these people made good decisions, but one was a " highly trained, experienced officer" who is alive and a 20 year old black kid who did a stupid thing and now he is dead. This routine has got to stop!

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Um, Right hand/left hand??

Taser x26 is about 2.5 pounds. Tasers range from half a pound to about that. Question would be which she’s carrying.

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Crossbody draw, you’re still using your dominant hand to shoot either one.

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If you’re looking at your weapon when firing, you’re doing it wrong.

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Whoops.

While in this instance something went wrong, that does not mean the training is wrong, Clem.

Being a cop in a sea of guns is one hell of a tough job. How the hell do these guys relax once they’re home?

If the cops are standing at near point-blank range, can’t they just shoot out the tires if the cop doesn’t think a gun is trained on them and they see that the individual they are trying to arrest is attempting to flee? Yeah, I’m second guessing, but tires don’t grieve their lost air. They can still drive on flats, but they aren’t going anywhere far anywhere fast. Ricochets can be very deadly, too.

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