In this case perhaps it was the reporting that was sloppy.
There were two votes, one in which Republicans were unanimous and one in which four of them, along with Amash, voted with the Democrats.
The first vote arose because House Republicans objected to Pelosi calling Trump’s words racist. Her doing so was out of order, they insisted. (You may have seen my comments yesterday about this, including the relevant excerpt from Jefferson’s Manual).
So a vote had to be taken, and every Republican voted to strike Pelosi’s comments from the record.
The second vote, in which four Republicans defected, came later, and was about passage of the resolution to condemn Trump’s remarks.
As for AOC: I suspect the interview – and her remark – came in between the two votes. If it did, then I don’t see how she could have acknowledged the four defections that hadn’t yet occurred.
So true…it’s the moderates in purple or even reddish-purple districts that are the ‘majority makers’ not the safe seats like AOC.
To keep the house Pelosi needs to protect the majority makers more than she needs to protect the squad. Wondering if the amount of publicity that the squad gets makes some people unaware of the realy balance and the fragility.
So it was true, sorta, at the time - but AOC’s characterization of what the vote she was referring to actually did was misleading. Gah. Stuff like that is why freshmen really should think twice before running to the microphones.
The problem is, she described the vote about Pelosi’s language as being about Trump’s remarks. If she’d been more clear, it would have played right into the GOP tactic of turning the public attention 180 degrees onto the Democrat’s language.
Giving that interview between the votes put her into a no-win situation - she could be more accurate, or she could make the more important, larger point. She chose the latter.
I’m going by the quote in the article above, which seems to be accurate wording, watching the short clip TPM also posted. She’s specific that the vote is about Trump’s words, in spite of the issue being more complicated.
I don’t think she necessarily did the wrong thing, but a more sophisticated politician could perhaps have avoided the mix of absolutism and timing that bit her in the ass here.
They are the ones holding the world in their hands. They are the ones with the energy and the time ahead of them to make the changes we all so desperately want to see.
If they stay on this path they have started down they will save America ultimately I think and o the gorgeous irony of it! Women of color. hahahahahaha I love it and I love them.
Dammit AOC, there you go again! There were FOUR GOP congresspersons who voted for the resolution…and you know that. But you straight up lied about it anyway! I keep hoping you will grow up, and stop fudging the facts, and you Just. Keep. Disappointing.
The first was to stop Pelosi from introducing the resolution, because she used words that were mean to the president (against House rules introduced by Paul Ryan). The R’s tried to halt everything, called for a vote to silence her and remove her words from the record. That vote was strictly along partisan lines and failed. There was a lot of buzz in the media, and confusion about what was taking place.
After that vote, AOC responded to questions about that and said the vote was along party lines. She didn’t lie.
Then there was a vote on the resolution itself. That vote succeeded and 4 Republicans and Amash switched sides.
And, see, you just lied about what happened. The first vote was to strike a few words, not to bar the entire resolution.
And she did lie, because her words were explicitly about the resolution itself. She either lied about the number of GOP votes, or she lied about which vote she was talking about. But she lied.
Jeebus Christmas people, We are supposed to be the fact based side here!
It was a very confusing hour or two. I was online and not paying a lot of attention, but the media were all a-flutter about “chaos in the House!” as Pelosi had begun to speak and was interrupted repeatedly by Republicans calling to silence her for violating House rules.
The chair (not sure who it was wielding the gavel) tried to secure order, but the Rs kept objecting and finally they decided to have a vote on whether to allow Pelosi’s words to remain.
Then, of course, lots of Congresscritters roamed the halls and reporters were trying to get quotes and make sense of it all. It took more time, more speeches and the final vote on the resolution to determine what had happened.
