Capitol Rioters’ ‘Trump Defense’ Comes Up Again And Again. Will It Make A Difference? | Talking Points Memo

I’ve seen that come up repeatedly in surveys, where GOP respondents perceive the world as more frightening and threatening. I wouldn’t take the constant pressure of the right-wing noise machine out of the equation, but certainly there are people whose thinking is governed more by fear, and they’d be more receptive to that propaganda. The browns will destroy your leafy suburbs, and so forth.

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The militia types-- used the normative-gullible types-- as human camouflages.
Had the attack been slightly better organized? Without heroism in particular moments?

We might all be speaking MAGAt right about now. :wink:

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Considering how much Texas and other states love to use the death penalty against mentally-challenged prisoners, this genius super-lawyer might want to reframe his arguments.

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FOX and Fiends are capitalizing on that fear and loathing instinct.
Mein Kampf says it straight up as a practical tactic of control.
Every FOX crawl line and talking face that shouts the words “You will be OUTRAGED!!!” is an exercise in inciting amygdala-dwellers.
FOX has sequestered them into a news lockbox they willingly remain in.
If the truth hurts, don’t listen to it.
Watch FOX instead.
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And all at the cost of our civil discourse.

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I don’t. Neither do my loved ones who are autistic or otherwise apparently deemed deficient by you. Seems to me that any deficiency here is located elsewhere.

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“Montgomery told an officer in April that he “did not understand why this was popping up now,” after years of hunting in Colorado without incident.”

Hunting Congress-critters tends to put one on everyone’s radar.

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Not to change the subject but by way of contrast, James and Deborah Fallows have been engaged in a multi-year project to find and describe successful local and regional efforts to solve problems without all this craziness from the right. You get these whole communities working together in a rational way to revive their economies and address other needs. They’ve done a book called “Our Towns” and a documentary about it. Great stuff.

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Recall after 9/11, Fox continuously ran the color coded graphic of current terror threat at the bottom of the screen.
How long did that run before it became very old and stupid even for Fox?

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I got a glimpse of one of those Home Makeover cable shows recently, but instead of just one house, they did a whole town make-over.
Seems like that sort of community pride is worth cultivating somehow, maybe stimulus money for that very purpose would be appropriate.
Givig those “unifiers” like the Fallows, resources to do that good work is the sort of thing government should exit for in the first place.
Right now, Republican “wealthy-only” rule allows greedy landlords to let entire neighborhoods deteriorate, then they blame the residents.

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It is great to see so many meaningful comments here these days, really ups the numbers for Josh.

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“It doesn’t matter if they were answering his call in terms of their own guilt or innocence,” said Harry Litman, a former U.S. attorney and deputy assistant attorney general, referring to Trump. “The law doesn’t recognize it as an excuse. Whatever brought them there, whatever they were spurred on to do, social media postings or whatever, they’re equally guilty under the federal statutes.”

“Equally guilty”???

Since that’s the case, then throw the book at Fox News and OAN and NewsMax, as well. They all share responsibility for the assault on this nation’s Congress.

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He could say the same thing about a lynch mob, which the 1/6 insurrection in fact aimed to be.
To my mind, it’s insufficient.

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Antonio is currently out of detention.

Can we please stop using this euphemism? He was in jail. He was a prisoner. As are the bastards, poor and otherwise, who are prisoners at Guantanamo.

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Well, it also shows one of the aspects needed for a “diminished capacity” defense.

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I think you had a continuum, and at one end were some pretty malevolent goons. But his own client is really a pretty pathetic guy and not a criminal type.

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I don’t think that’ll sail in these cases.
Even with the defendant’s need for a post-indictment Mexican vacation.

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Just hang all of them.

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I wonder would these same defendants blindly follow the behests of an “authority figure” like President Biden?

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I agree: I think a lot of them didn’t really understand what they were there for.
Useful idiots, of a sort.
It does, however, still show a deficiency of judgment, particularly when you get the crowd’s forcing its way into the Capitol. (ed.)

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Pathetic people without a criminal record murder people every day. Neither aspect argues for leniency.

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