Yup! That was a good line and one Sanders deserved.
Bloomberg Hammered From All Sides At Debate, Offering Little To Defend Himself | Talking Points Memo
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His spend isn’t designed to make him the nominee. He’s in this to destroy Shithead and it’s working. He may have gotten out over his skies and started to believe the hype around him but I think that’s over.
Bloomberg can stay in the race and continue to spend unlimited amounts of cash propping up or exposing whomever he chooses but his ultimate goal is to get Shithead out of the WH.
On a personal note, I’m fine if he manages to knock BS down in the process.
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He is what he is. The presidency won’t be won with TV ads alone. What you saw on the stage is what the rest of America will/would see eventually. An elitist non-charismatic, sneering, entitled billionaire who’s name happens to be NotTrump. That’s it. That. Is. It. Dump seems like a regular guy compared to him. That’s quite a feat. He will not win. He. Will. Not. Effing. Win.
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The certainty, not to say smugness, of those reveling in Bloomberg’s debate performance tonight, tells me that we who are desperate to unseat the lunatic current WH occupant should turn our gaze once again upon the same pathetic Dem. presidential hopefuls who have been turning us to the stone of boredom for months now. No thanks, purists. You will feel safe in your righteousness as we face four years of Trump.
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And let’s be honest, RBG may not outlive a Shithead second term and we can’t afford another Boofin’ Bart on SCOTUS.
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Going after Bloomberg on NDAs was totally fair game and it’s about f-ing time. Chronic NDA abuse is the only reason Donald Trump is President. NDAs hide criminal activity every goddamn day and they’ve become a plague. A law needs to be passed requiring each and every NDA to get a judge’s prior approval, because they are NOT and have never been free voluntary contracts between equal parties who mutually benefit. Biden, piling on, got it absolutely right. I think NDA restriction would do more to clean up corporate and political behavior than just about any other proposed reform out there.
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“Strangely” indeed. That is a view that will be shared by few others.
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Um…OK. You’re welcome to your opinion of course, but you didn’t really answer my question, which was: What did you think of Bloomberg’s performance tonight?
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I agree. Bloomberg may be a massively flawed candidate in many respects but I can’t help but think he is the only one who can really get to Trump. And his ad campaign is light years ahead of the crap served up by the party. I’m also tired of the line about him buying the election. Unless he is literally passing out dollars to voters he is only doing what every other candidate does on a smaller scale – organizing and buying ads. If Warren has more money than Amy is that unfair? Do we need socialism to even out the money spent by each candidate? Unless we can get back to the idea that elections will be financed by the government or there are strict, enforceable limits on spending.
I have no doubt that Bloomberg’s SC nominees would all uphold Roe. At this point I can boil my election needs down to two things – the Supreme Court and the Senate. I can overlook most other personal foibles.
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You think he sounded calm? I think he sounded petulant, pretty damned often, including the line about ‘who here has started a business’. Let’s keep in mind that he could only pull that line because Steyer and Yang weren’t on the stage.
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Tonight Bloomberg forgot to bring his cape:
Sanders: The Joker
Warren: Harley Quinn
Buttigeig: Commissioner Gordon
Biden: Bane
Klobuchar: Talia Al Ghul
Bloomberg: Bruce Wayne
If ttump isn’t gonna debate as many have suggested, and if he doesn’t win by normal debate standards but by narrative (as he did in 2016, both primary and general), then it doesn’t matter how Bloomberg performs compared to fellow Dems. He should win by narrative too. But he seems to fail in that regard, judging from the post debate reactions. The media is actually biased against Dems, whoever the nominee is.
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One of the biggest dangers of a contested convention is if Sanders has a significant lead, but doesn’t win. It’s going to look like the DNC conspiring to screw him out of the election, and it’s going to demoralize and anger his voters. If he goes in with 40%+ of the delegates, and the other 60 are split at least 3 ways with nobody else over 35, I think Warren tells her people to support him, just to prevent a major fracture.
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Bloomberg, tonight, came across as one thing that should send up alarm bells in the Democratic base:
A Republican. Because that’s what he is. As Republicans go, he’s not a bad guy. He’s even pretty sane on a lot of social issues. But he’s a trickle-down Republican, through and through.
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But he can beat Trump while Bernie the Independent can not. So it’s either Warren or Biden, the Democrats or Bloomberg the Republican perhaps with Stacy Abrams as a VP. Those are the three possible winning outcomes.
Bloomberg to staff: “Double the advertising budget.”
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Yup, denying the nomination to a candidate who arrives at the convention with a sizeable plurality of the delegates would basically be political suicide for the Democratic Party in the 2020 presidential race, all but guaranteeing Trump’s re-election.
I mean if one candidate has 34% and two others have 33% each, then there’s an argument that there’s no clear winner. But if one candidate is well ahead of everyone else but still a bit short of an outright majority…then it would be insanely self-defeating for delegates (both pledged and “super”) to withhold the nomination from that front-runner on a second round vote…at least assuming the goal is to unite the party and defeat Trump.
I guess the question is, are there really enough “establishment Dems” among the delegates who would rather lost to Trump than win with Bernie as their standard-bearer? I have to hope, and cautiously optimistically believe, there aren’t.
So I am hopeful this “problem” will take care of itself in one of three ways:
(1) Some other candidate gets a majority or sizeable plurality, in which case that the NeverBernie folks have no worries as that non-Bernie candidate becomes the nominee.
(2) Bernie wins an outright majority of delegates and so wins in the first round voting, or
(3) Bernie wins a sizeable plurality, and on the second round of delegate voting, wins a majority, because the true hard-core NeverBernie folks are badly outnumbered by the majority of delegates who care more about uniting the party to defeat Trump, than dividing it to block Bernie.
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Aren’t most delegates elected officials? They’ll vote for whoever they think could carry downballot candidates. They won’t put their own reelection chance at risk if they don’t think the plurality winner could win the general.
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I see this magical thinking will not die. B-berg needs to be in EVERY debate from now on. And still some people think $$ can actually buy an election.
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