As Trump Touts Plans For Immigrant Roundup, Militias Are Standing Back, But Standing By

A Militia would be a State sanctioned group. Some times state funded.

Para military is a bunch of boys playing in the woods and desert.

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A paramilitary is an unofficial force organized like the military.

From article 1section 2. The Congress shall have the power to provide for the organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia and for governing each part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the Officers and the authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by congress.

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There is nothing humane in sending a migrant family back to their home country to face the gangs that killed their brother or their father, or that burned their house and left them homeless. As the daughter of immigrants, I can say that living in a foreign country with no extended family is not easy even with the right paperwork. I can also surmise that deporting a million or more people is not easy and with TSF’s goons doing the executing, there will be lots of errors - citizens being deported, families split up, children misplaced in the system, women and girls raped, and migrants of all ages subject to physical and mental abuse. I think we can do better than that.

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Clinton, Bush, Obama all deported illegal immigrants & far more than Trump. There wasn’t a lot of noise about it. Trump used the issue to polarize electorate & claimed he would deport more than any President in history. He hasn’t just another lie used to stoke fear & divide the electorate. IOWs, it’s been happening all along it’s just Trump is inhumane about it.

https://www.cato.org/blog/interior-immigration-enforcement-has-collapsed-under-trump-lowest-level-george-w-bush

I know that many were deported under every president. I guess I wish that more was being done to fix our immigration system, but the Republicans in Congress have obstructed any reforms for many years. I don’t know exactly how to design and implement a more equitable system, but I am very sure that such a thing is possible if the goal is to make a just, humane system. Right now we have too many people posturing and engaging in performative cruelty with the outcome that thousands of people are left in limbo hoping their huge gamble will not cost them and their family their lives.

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It’s not easy living in USA without extended family. Our “upwardly mobile” family left Midwest with 2 kids under 5 to live in SoCal, no Gparents, parents, cousins, aunts or uncles nor siblings. No one. It was just the 4 of us. No family attended their birthdays,holiday dinners, sports games nor award ceremonies. It was hard. We survived and established ourselves in community & with church family. Then we moved again all the way to EastCoast. And had to start all over again in new community without extended family. Life happens like that even when you are born & raised in America it’s always for same reason too. You want to make a better life for your kids & that can mean sacrificing family ties. I cried many a night out of loneliness & need for family, in the end, I simply had to soldier on

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How about “armed bandits”? Has a nice old-fashioned ring to it.

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You have a lot of opinions. They may be well-intentioned, but they’re hopelessly naïve and devoid of factual basis:

  • Up to 60% of homeless people already work full time jobs.

  • The vast majority live in big cities, which — you may have noticed — are not where the farms are.

  • A significant percent are children, the disabled, the elderly, the physically ill, the mentally ill, and chronic substance abusers completely incapable of 16-hour days in back-breaking labor amid life-threatening heat.

Homelessness isn’t caused by undocumented migrants taking all those sweet, sweet jobs in pesticide-drenched fields and slaughterhouses. (Spoiler: It’s caused by the lack of affordable housing.)

Lincoln offered great advice for all of us, so maybe try not to “remove all doubt” so quickly next time?

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Yep, just like most adults.
Homeless folks may have jobs. But they are homeless because the jobs don’t pay a living wage & they can’t afford housing. Which means we can invest in affordable housing built near produce farms as well as raise minimum wage to $20. Throughout time people migrate to areas that provide a living wage. The homeless can too.
I certainly didn’t imply, infer nor suggest the jobs were sweet nor that homelessness is caused by ILLEGAL immigrants.

Of course, neither “militia” members nor the police can deport anybody. However, the Trump plan (if you can call it that) seems to be to kidnap people and put them in inhospitable camps where they are denied due process, on the theory they will sign away their rights and consent to leaving the country.

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