Appellate Judges To DOJ: Is Court’s ‘Integrity’ At Stake In Flynn Dispute? | Talking Points Memo

DoJ would have withdrawn their motion before the end of this coming January.

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A thorough investigation of Trump and Russia would conclusively show Flynn and Stone’s involvement (among others) as Trump’s co-conspirators. As such, perhaps Flynn’s pardon would be invalidated as well as Stone’s commutation?

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I find this confusing.
Flynn pled guilty. At this point it is no longer in the DOJs hand, it is in the courts, which is why the DOJ can only make a sentencing recommendation. The judge sentences Flynn.

The obvious solution is for the Judge to sentence Flynn, and the solution for Trump is a pardon or commutation. Not a dismissal after the guilty plea but before sentencing.

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I don’t give a damn what the Lincoln Project did in the past or will do in the future. What they are doing in the present is trying to remove an existential threat to our country
and our planet. And they are good at it. I’m sending money.

So what has Douthat done recently to help remove the cancer which is Trump?

You are confused about how the NY Times became so disdained. One reason us that they publish people Douthat.

From your description his article is concern trolling at its finest.

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Good point. I hope so. I also hope that Trump leaves Flynn hanging, counting on the motion to dismiss to get him out of trouble.

I fear, on the other hand, that Trump will issue a pardon on his way out the door to keep Flynn quiet. If so, I can still see Flynn running on the QAnon ticket in 2022.

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My bet is he’ll do that, but will only pardon for the crime of which he’ll have been convicted. He’s admitted to so many others, and he reneged on the bargain, so they won’t be subsumed. He may be very sorry to have changed counsel.

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Instead of WTF maybe you should tell us something like - what DO you think happened in your 4 hours of court? What SHOULD the title be?

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On literally all fronts, legal, economic, bureaucratic, administrative, intelligence, military, police, media, political–the freaking post office–Trump is imposing fascism on the US, and it’s happening with stunning rapidity and intensity. Perhaps fascism is the wrong word, as it implies a mass organized movement with ideological underpinnings. Here it’s more like authoritarianism, autocracy or tyranny, rule by one person with overwhelming if not absolute power, with the mechanisms of justice and democracy co-opted to serve their ends and become a mockery of their true purposes.

He pardons friends and allies willing to protect him, doles out lucrative political favors to himself and his friends, militarizes local law enforcement in a particularly brutal manner, tries to make it impossible to vote by mail or vote at all if you’re not likely to vote for him, allows hundreds of thousands to die needlessly while he plays golf and calls for monuments to be build to glorify him, ruthlessly attacks political opponents and critics and sics his investigators on them, and so on.

If that’s not authoritarianism, or the attempt at it, I don’t know what it is.

And STILL nearly 42% of Americans approve of him!

If he manages to steal the election, we’re done.

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Dems were tamed decades ago and have never shown real teeth ever since. I literally can’t think of more than a handful of Dems who say what needs to be said and don’t try to tone it down to not seem angry or partisan. This didn’t happen naturally. They were trained to do this by the GOP, over a period of decades, attacked as soft on this, angry about that, anti-American, anti-family, anti-god, and so on. Eventually, the fear of being accused of these ridiculous things got to them, and they adapted their behavior to avoid such attacks. A younger generation that came of age after this happened isn’t buying it, but they’re backbenchers with little power.

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And so, Mike Flynn has been sidelined for just about the entire Trump reign of terror. Thank God!

Clarence Thomas wrote in one of his decisions that evidence of innocence is not enough to overcome procedural hurdles like a missed deadline. The system must not be disrupted, even by evidence of its failure.

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Congratulations, you just fell for the grift.

Let them grift off Republican donors who have pangs of conscience.

They are certainly pocketing a good portion of any money you send them, so you are helping to feed Kellyanne Conway’s household. How nice.

Guaran-damn-teed they will be back blowing the dog whistle under a President Harris. Make book on it.

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I’ll worry about that after we elect Biden. Meanwhile by attacking the source of some of the most effective ads against him you are ( inadvertently) helping Trump.

Edited to (partially) remove offense and to make my argument clearer.

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I’m giving my money to the Democrats.

I don’t appreciate, because I’m not falling for this Republican grift, being accused of “working for Trump.”

Maybe the people who flagged the original version of this message as inappropriate could flag that.

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Amen!! Get your checkbook out!

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Go Lincoln Project!

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First time poster comes on to encourage people to donate to Lincoln Project (instead of Biden/Harris).

Hmmmmm…

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I objected to the outcome of an action. It is a point on which we disagree. It was not name calling. I’ll edit to make that clearer.

The outcome of donating to Lincoln Project is that you feel good. I doubt their ads move the needle of a single Republican voter, they always “come home” at election time, but they sure make people like you feel good.

This election will be won or lost based on how many people get out to vote for Biden/Harris instead of Trump/Pence. That’s what you should be spending your money on.

Instead you’ll waste your money on feel-good theater, and then have the temerity to accuse those who do otherwise of working for Trump. It’s still there in your edited post!