Appeals Court Rejects Stone Bid To Nix Gag Order | Talking Points Memo

It looks like Roger Stone will have to stay off Instagram for at least a little bit longer.

An appeals court on Tuesday rejected the request by Stone and his family to loosen the gag order that had been imposed in his case.


This is a companion discussion topic for the original entry at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/?p=1257219
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Gee, what sad news.

I have sooooo missed hearing Roger’s pearls of wisdom over the past few months… :crazy_face:

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Stone is a bombastic goof, but he does have his fingers in a great many wingnut pies. It seems at least possible he has some sort of knowledge about the various issues House committees are taking testimony on right now. Sort of odd you don’t hear about him being called before committee to testify about anything.
I guess he’s just clueless maybe?

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Looking forward to Roger’s interview from whatever prison ends up being his residence after his conviction.

On second thought, I’m sure I’m busy that day.

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Roger Stone is a sociopath, certifiable.

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IOW -
STFU!
Period.

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On Stone…

“he angered Jackson by posting an of her on his Instagram with a crosshairs in the corner and an inflammatory caption.”

That alone deserves to be banned from social media because it incites violence/Stochastic Terrorism!

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Bummer

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A narrow window of time if he’s housed in the Epstein Suite.

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Poor widdow baby…

He must really be going through withdrawal agony, not being able to shoot his mouth off on social media.

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I’m guessing he’ll hang around for a while…

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I am not reading any more stories about Stone until the one that tells how much prison time he is getting. He is a vulture who thinks he is an ostrich, and his juvenile preening and dirty tricks have infected our culture way past when he should have become completely irrelevant - sometime in the early 70s.

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Interestingly, the court didn’t rule on the merits of Stone’s arguments that the Judge’s order violated his First Amendment rights to free speech. Rather, (and I apologize in advance for the technical legal analysis) Stone invoked the court’s jurisdiction under the Mandamus statute, which in essence argues that the district judge was clearly violating his rights and the appeals court had to order her to stop.

Unfortunately for Stone, mandamus isn’t available if there is an alternative avenue of obtaining relief. And, the court said that Stone could simply have appealed the orders within 14 days of the date they were issued, or he could have moved the district judge to reconsider and appeal if she denied the motion. Well, he didn’t, and the court dismissed the case for lack of jurisdiction.

Tough one, eh?

I saw the Reply that this is really byzantine. Actually, the opinion is very clear (if you ignore the citations to statutes and cases). For those who are interested, the opinion in the case is here. For what it’s worth, Stone’s conduct is pretty outrageous.

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“Forget it,” U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson told Stone, “the ball gag stays tightly in place. I will, however, adjust your mask so we can better see the fear in your eyes.”

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While I’m mostly confident that the courts will ultimately rule properly in most of these cases, including SCOTUS, part of me worries that the fix is in and that as much as Roberts and even the other 4 might loath Trump, they might ultimately let him off the hook in order to save the GOP, even if it means demolishing their credibility and their own authority. I hope that that’s proven to be an unwarranted fear.

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One of these days I’m going to read a “Law for Dummies” type of intro to law book to understand how this works, at least on a basic level. It’s not intuitive, much of it byzantine.

Everything has been so quiet around Rodger Stone ,you kind of forget another one is getting ready to " kiss the baby".

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Except in extraordinary cases (NOT this one), mandamus is an act of desperation during the pendency of a trial. This is also true at the state level in most places.

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Good.

Now when does he actually begin serving his sentence and have his SM tools and minions taken away, as in a high security cell with no internet service?

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Appeals Court Rejects Stone Bid To Nix Gag Order

Simpsons-nelson-ha-ha

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