A Tremendously Consequential Election Day Is Finally Here

I hope you’ll be back. This is gutting but I need to stay connected to this community. I’d miss you terribly just as I miss others who have left. We know who :cry:

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Love you too. Please take care.

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The American people have broken my heart.

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I don’t know if that would have mattered. I don’t think it would have.

If we look at the popular vote numbers, Trump is probably going to get the same number of votes as he did in 2020. He certainly is not going to break Biden’s numbers from 2020. Trump’s current numbers by state are pretty much where they were in 2020 too.

I think that the difference (besides a dose of racism and misogyny) is that in 2020 there was a greater sense of urgency, of personal urgency. Between the pandemic and unemployment, etc, we were not in a good place. People, who don’t normally vote, felt the urgency. They felt the need to get Trump out. This year, thanks to the current administration (whether they want to credit the current administration or not) people are personally doing much better, so those people who don’t normally vote did not feel the same urgency as they did in 2020. Most likely, many of those people figured Harris had it in the bag, so they just didn’t drag their asses to the polls.

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And that’s the key here. I’ve heard it said many times:

Republican voters ALWAYS show up, regardless of who they are running.

Dems show up when it suits them. It didn’t suit them yesterday.

If we look at the voting year over year for President, the GOP almost always posts the same number of votes. The Dems don’t. The Dems may never again post numbers, but they needed to do so yesterday. Not sure where the complacency came from, it sure didn’t show throughout the Harris campaign.

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as was herding the reporters at jr’s speeches into a pen… aka controlling the message

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I now have a big axe to grind with everyone who demanded Biden step down. George Clooney, Stephen King, Rob Reiner, the Pod Save America bros, Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, and Nancy Pelosi with all of her behind the scenes dealing.

Biden had one bad night and you thought you could easily replace him. I was worried about this when he was forced out and it’s clear that only someone like Biden could defeat Trump.

We warned everyone about Trump over and over again along with Project 2025. But nobody listened!! NOBODY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT APPEARANCES!!!

The worst part about this is that Trump’s biggest gains are from people that would be affected by his decisions like Latinos. Enough with this Dem fantasy that Latinos are suddenly going to magically join us. They’ll get deported and still think it was the best choice to vote for Trump.

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I will miss your wise commentary, but I get it. Please come back when and if you can.

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All the corporate media are run by billionaires who support Trump. Fox, Musk, Theil…They have shown that they can run any candidate and win. That is all. Welcome to the new world order.

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Hummm. I’d be checking those numbers.

I will miss your voice.
Stay well and good luck.

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From The Guardian, a reasonably accurate approximation of the final tallies:


It can’t change the overall result, but some electoral votes are still unassigned.
I don’t know if the numbers along the bottom are final tallies of voters. What they seem to show is that, while both sides have fewer voters here, Donnie more closely reproduced his 2020 voter numbers (down 3 million here) while the Democrats lost well in excess of 10 million voters. That would seem to be the determining result.

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I think Chump lost 10 million old voters but found 7 million new voters. I can’t prove that yet.
We don’t have that luxury, we apparently are redlining at 70-80 million.

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Take it easy and good luck.
I look forward to reading from you again.

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Every Times writer (with exception of Bremmer) seems to be answering, “What did the Democrats do wrong,” as if all other things were equal and the Party’s actions were the only variable in this question. (ed. for sloppiness)
I’m wondering, ‘What’s the source of the data supporting these positions, less than 24 hours after the election?’

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Unfortunately, I think this was cemented by the media, not by the party. Please note how far worse behaviors and lapses by Trump were never amplified nor deemed disqualifying as that one moment was for Biden.

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Yep…we are a fractured party that has some core shared beliefs, but we can easily be lured away from voting for the prize.

The number of people who didn’t vote for Kamala because of Gaza is simply stupid. The orange ass is a friend of Bibi. Israel will have no compunction about razing Gaza now. Plus, the ass hates Muslims. WT actual F.

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Let’s be honest. It wasn’t just “one moment”. And the trajectory of aging is never positive. For any of us.

What evidence can you cite for that number?

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I don’t readily have stats, but I have seen MANY interviews with people saying that they couldn’t vote for Kamala because of Gaza.

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