The various investigations into Jan. 6th’s right-wing attack on the Capitol keeps churning up surprising revelations about how federal agencies were being run at the time.
I don’t want to be first, so ignore this.
One unnamed issue is the deliberate use of communications mechanisms for which people know there is not robust record keeping for the purposes of secrecy.
I recall years ago, when Blackberry’s were the preferred means of text comms, how folks would deliberately use PIN messages because those were not held on commercial servers and were therefor less easy to FOIA or otherwise retrieve. I believe the same is now true for imessages (as apposed to mms or sms).
So, while there may not (or may) have been a deliberate plan on the back end to make sure that records were not available, on the front end a choice of comms mechanisms can bake that intent into the cake, as it were.
Q: A Cover Up? Or Just Astounding Negligence?
A: Yes!
“There is nothing sinister about what’s going on,” he said. “It is simply a matter of noncompliance with burdensome requirements.”
He sounds like a reactionary politician or the spokesperson for a chemical or heavy metals company after their effluvium has been found to have poisoned 2/3 of the people in a valley.
What’s the old saying: once an accident, twice it’s coincidence, three times it’s enemy action.
Don’t know how many times the Trump administration and those they infected broke the rules but it’s a helluva lot more than three.
ETA: From sheer arrogant slop like that butt-end of the wealth evolutionary tree Kushner declaring violation of national security stuff is basically a problem of paperwork to outright espionage and sale of national secrets doesn’t matter in the slightest: (a) they aren’t mutually exclusive and (b) our national adversaries benefit just the same. Whether this rises to the legal definition of treason I’ll leave to others more knowledgeable; I’ve seen enough.
Can I go with 'Both?"
There’s no reason to assume the same explanation necessarily applies to all of these cases.
Those darned regulations will be the death of Capitalism!
But Moulton did find it strange that the deletions were carried on after agencies received several requests for the records, which came soon after the insurrection.
Fat boy only hired the best, at erasing their tracks.
Stuff like this needs to be enforced. Bosses need to make it a priority, and in a normal I.T. organization there are audits and penalties for letting shit slide. I don’t think everyone in these orgs were deliberately trying to hide everything, and think it was mostly…did anyone expect the Chump administration was going to be on top of this stuff, or intentionally being soft about it?
Now, perhaps certain depts. did wish that records mostly disappeared. I wouldn’t put anything past a lot of these criminals. I am certain some were deleted on purpose, in a special way to make them unrecoverable.
What really gets me, is the key people in Congress, WH, DHS, and Chump’s coup-ring were intentionally using encrypted apps for their criming. One of the J6C reforms I want to see is highlighting how many/which ones were doing this, make a big stink about how incriminating that is, and make sure it is a punishable action in future.
A cover up is certainly plausible but so is negligence. In fact, it’s quite plausible that this wasn’t even negligence, but rather a common occurrence of which we are only now being made aware. The technical support available to most government employees is usually inferior to what most in the private sector are accustomed to, and it’s pretty bad for most in the private sector.
A primary reason Hillary got caught up in her “e-mail” scandal was that it was hardly a closely guarded secret that official government servers weren’t very good and that, even though it was a breach of protocol (officially) to use your own server, this was commonly done since it was often a more efficient and secure way to do business.
Since this was a common practice within the state department, it was easy to guess that Hillary did it. The Republicans only needed to look to find out that Hillary disobeyed the “official rules” and then make a huge stink about it as though she were the only person to have done such a thing.
One of the main problems with interpreting stories like these is that too many people assume our government has access to “Men in Black” levels of technology when, in reality, the technology our government normally runs on is a bit closer to that of the former Soviet Union.
Let me be the first to ignore it.
Second!
Currently last!
I out lasted you!
What I still don’t have a good sense for how many DHS, or USSS successfully backed up their work, vs how many who didn’t.
And then there’s the number of 24 Secret Service employees that were in communications with high-ranking Pentagon and Department of Homeland Security officials, so nobody in this gaggle of security professionals did what they were suppose to do?
And what about their communications prior to Jan 6th? Did any of these people turnover any communications during their time of employment?
Fortunately the Supreme Court will be the death of those darned regulations so unregulated capitalism will once again reign supreme.
“There is nothing sinister about what’s going on,” he said. “It is simply a matter of noncompliance with burdensome requirements.” What a load a bs! Where’d they dig up this moron?
I find it hard to fathom why ALL government phones don’t automatically get backed up to some sort of cloud server, where either voice messages or texts can’t be deleted.
Why not both negligence and cover-up? I see @benthere beat me to it.