Discussion: Why The Crazy-Long CNN Debate Solved None Of The GOP's Problems

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This strange nominating contest will now lurch on into the autumn, probably continuing to freak out political scientists and mega-donors alike – in other words, people not used to uncertainty.

In other words, time to invest in popcorn futures. Mmmmm, mmmmm, mmmm…

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TONIGHT’S DEBATE, he put the TRUMP stamp on that ONE…LOL Here’s the way it went and NO SUPRISE this how they all sounded…

re: debate length

Humans have had democracy for 2,500 years and its about time we selected our leaders as those best able to hold their urine.

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All that telegraphing about how they were going to go in and kick Trump’s ass. As my dad a very conservative conservative pointed out after about the first 90 minutes. “Remember from Macbeth? If you’re gonna kill the king you better actually do it. Well they haven’t and he just keeps rolling along.”

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This isn’t any different then back in 2012, when everybody concluded Republicans really hurt their chances of winning the White House by going through this debate spectacle. They’re just killing themselves.

I also don’t understand why anybody donates to their super-pacs. The spectacle of these debates seem to completely nullify the ability of that money to buy any influence.

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The Republican Party’s so-called ‘problems’ are features, not bugs.

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You are running for president, you have tens of millions of dollars sunk into your campaign, there’s a three-hour debate–it seems pretty darned risky to not be wearing a diaper.

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I am happy I didn’t waste my time watching this mess…I knew what was going to be said, and well, there is nothing new…they all are terrible people, wanting do horrible things to our Democracy…the gop is corrupt, and is hurting our nation right now…fuck these candidates, as they would try to fuck the rest of the country…

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It was long nothing new was said, a complete waste of time.

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And now, a short summary of the total substance of last night’s GOP debate:

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If ever the whole were less than the sum of its parts.

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I watched most of it, but just shut it off around 3/4 of the way. It really was just a bunch of terrible people going back and forth about a bunch of things they’re all completely wrong about.

And all hail Reagan!

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Trump did it for them I think, but then again there is a large percentage of his support that will never leave kinda of like Ron Paul. He will carry 15-20% from state to state.

Trump showed that he has no clue about how to actually solve the problems he keeps yelling about. Every question, the answer is casinos, China, Mexico, everyone ripping us off, I will make better deals, everyone loves Trump, America will be great again, we will be so powerful nobody will mess with us etc…

Well Donald how are you going to do all that? Donald, I’m rich, own casinos, China loves Trump and so do Mexicans and women.

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The most telling point of the almost all Donald debate, to me, was just after it ended. The pundits were all trashing Donald and praising Carly and Christie but the pictures were in stark contrast. A massive scrum foamed around the Donald as the cable nets followed him down a hall and into a room for some sound and then down another hall, all live with nary another candidate warming a screen phosphor.

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I’m a Desert Storm veteran and former republican of 20+ years, I started voting democrat in 2000. I volunteered for the Obama campaign after I could no longer take the lies from, and disgust I held toward, the republicans.

I am a firm Hillary supporter yet I find Trump strangely appealing -I chalk it up to the fact that he is not doing the silly dance that every single one of the other candidates is forced to do. I really think he is the best republican candidate simply because he’s real.

I hope he stays in till the end.

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Trump “real”? As in reality TV, you mean?

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Sure it is: 2012 had Mittens on, but not 2016 … so far.

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Sir, I despise Rump and, as another commenter pointed out, I’m no longer laughing at the prospect of his going into the general election. This sh*t is getting VERY real.

Having said that, I can actually understand Rump’s appeal. He says what he says with such conviction, it feels like “leadership.” Of course, it’s not but I can see the appeal especially as compared to most of the incompetent chuckleheads on that stage. I mean, JEB wanted an apology from Rump - and didn’t get it! Rump might as well have just stood there and LITERALLY told JEB to go pound sand. There is no way on this Earth that JEB will be the nominee because, if nothing else, he comes across as being very weak and sort of unmanly.

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I watched about half of that ungodly mess. I turned it off right after Carson said something like, “Mexicans can stay in America to work in the fields. They will never have rights or ever be Americans, but they can work in the fields.” When the black guy starts describing his plan to re-institute slavery, its time to get the fuck away from these maniacs.

My take away:

  • Jeb! - Toast. He might as well stop now. He made Jindle look like
    Stallone.
  • Trump - Faded after the first 30 minutes. No change.
  • Fiorina - Will get a huge bump. Huuuuuge bump. She seems to be the
    only viable option to Trump, especially against Hillary.
  • Carson - I don’t get him. I really don’t.

The rest? Nothing burger. If Jeb! is not the man and Trump implodes, I have no clue who will be their nominee except for Fiorina. But I gotta assume it will be Trump. No one else on that stage has a remote chance.

Lastly, I am horrified of them all. I really am. A Democrat HAS to win. The thought of any of these monsters in power will keep me from sleep for days.

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