Discussion: Video Shows Wilson Didn't Brag About Funding FBI Building, As Kelly Claimed

I always thought Kelly was hired as Chief of Staff to apply lipstick to the Pig in Chief. Very scary individual.

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If it is that’s not actually better. Just think what that implies about Kelly. How did he even form a memory that is so far distorted from reality as to be irreconcilable with that reality? What depths of vileness are simmering in this man’s heart that when an elected representative of the people he is visiting describes how bipartisan teamwork achieved the “impossible” through a shared, intense desire to honor the FBI in the naming of their new field office, his brain instead perceived a woman pushing herself forward to crow about a special, privileged connection to the Black Man in the oval office that gives her access to taxpayer money any time she wants?

If that’s what happened, General Kelly should be locked away in an isolation ward in a mental hospital. Stat. Before he barricades himself in a hotel room and opens fire on the public.

@doctorbiobrain

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If that’s the case, they’re too inept to be in charge of anything. In less than a day, a local newspaper proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that Kelly was bald-face lying.

From here on, I will always think of him as John Empty-Barrel Kelly.

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You know, they’ve been using the wrong acronym all along.

It’s not MAGA.

It’s MAGGOT:

Make America Glorify Glorious Orange Trump

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My guess (all anyone can do is guess) is that he fell victim to hubris. He went from being mostly out of the public eye to being a much discussed figure on the world stage. Senators, the media, and twitter were all a buzz with how General Kelly is standing guard at the Whitehouse, protecting the nation and bringing much needed military discipline to bear. My guess is it went to his head. He thought he was so respected and so highly venerated that he could strut out into the public view and shame all critics into silence by mentioning his own personal tragedies, and simply then commanding obedience: I will talk, you will listen; I will deign to answer a question or two but only if you know a gold-star family; I will instruct you on how to think about this and you will not question that; and when I am done talking to you tonight this matter will be closed.

I think he really thought he had become so highly regarded as to be above not only criticism but even above question. Huckabee Sanders, I believe, was following the script he’d given her when she told the press it would simply not be appropriate for them to question General Empty Barrel.

I think he had no clear recollection of Rep Wilson’s speech, but he remembered he didn’t enjoy listening to her. So he just made something up. Something he thought would pass because no one was going to question or challenge the man who is holding the world together. My guess is he’d come to believe his authority is now so great that he didn’t need to put effort into crafting with a solid, defensible lie. Hubris is that which makes the greatest as flies to wanton boys. Hubris is how the gods kill us for their sport.

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Not saying that he may not aspire to …

But at this point… He’s not there —

donnie’s ego… at the very hint that something …anything… was getting bigger than him… would explode —

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What upsets me is that the woman is now under protection due to death threats. THESE PERSONS lied about her.

Kelly may have been overwhelmed talking about his son but So WHAT? Kelly did remember her comments wrong that’s for sure.

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I’m with Steve – not an outright lie but a mis-remembrance. This is not to say that misremembering is any better than a lie, but it is different.

Kelly of course knew that there were many other people at the event and that it was recent enough for others to remember, and so to either corroborate or correct his recollection. He certainly was aware of cameras recording this very public event and that there could be a video record of it.

Despite all this, he went with his memory of the event – something he didn’t have to mention at all and wouldn’t have unless he thought it would help shape the public view of Wilson as a despicable person.

Yes, he’s was acting like a racist, a sexist and a privileged white male who has way too much confidence in his own perception of the world, but I don’t think he was lying. He’s too savvy for that and hopefully, now that this has happened, a lot of racist, sexist and privileged people will think twice before making public accusations based only on their private memories.

The speech by Congresswoman Wilson was very gracious, text book gracious. The disgraceful lying sacks of sht in the White House could learn a thing or two about being gracious from Congresswoman Wilson. The lying sacks of sht should be ordered to listen to the speech again.

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I don’t know why anyone on the planet gives Kelly the benefit of the fucking doubt.

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If that is how he remembered it, then he should resign immediately due to dementia.
Slate has a good summary of what Wilson actually said, taken from the video. It is completely opposite of what Kelly claims.

In other words, Kelly’s characterization of Wilson’s remarks was wrong in both letter and spirit; she didn’t talk about money, and while she did mention herself, she did so for seemingly germane reasons while crediting others (including Republicans) and honoring the late FBI agents at length. (At the ceremony, then-FBI director James Comey said Wilson “truly did the impossible” in shepherding the naming legislation and said the FBI was “eternally grateful” for her work.)

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liked x bazillions

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Two words: Martin Bormann. That’s pretty much exactly the situation I think we’re looking at here.

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I think somebody else ‘refreshed’ Kelly’s memories. I found his vivid recall more like a second-hand description.

He still failed miserably. I’m waiting for the “Oh, there is a video ? In that case, that statement is no longer operative”-moment.

I want him to retire, I don’t think it is healthy, if the WH CoS enter into a personal smear campaing agains a presidential critic.

Oh, General Kelly, I was so hoping you’d be the only adult in the room. Turns out you aren’t.

Agree. He has a very narrow window to apologize to her and attempt to restore some of his military legacy. If he continues to double down ( trust my words… not your lying eyes ) he is a lying sycophant and should resign his position immediately.

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Rep Wilson turned the “WACKY” spotlight onto dotard Trump today, on AMJoy!

Hey! That’s an insult to ferrets! They’re cute and they do a happy dance that is hard to look at without smiling, while “Empty Barrel” Kelly is hard to look at without being totally disgusted (at the way he’s sold out any honor and respect he had to be able to lick his master’s boots). :slight_smile:

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Something critical I haven’t heard mentioned yet… was Kelly even at the dedication? I don’t see him in the video. It seems he not only lying about what Wilson said, he’s lying about being in any position of authority to know what she said.

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