Discussion: McCaskill’s Plane Problems Continue As Conservative Watchdog Requests Probe

And this surprises you? How many more examples of the party of fiscal conservatives not knowing how to count does one need in 2018?

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As somebody who uses snark a lot, sometimes I get misunderstood. But who knows.

I was going to point out the Mel Carnahan angle.

With the weird weather we’ve been having in MO I hope Claire has safe flights.

What I want to know is where are the Democrats Watchdogs demanding probes of Republicans, Damn there should be one on almost every Republican running for office. Today’s Republican Party is the most Corrupt political party in our country’s history.

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What surprises me is that some people don’t recognize that “plane” is to McCaskill what “email” was to Clinton.

Remember that the initial attack on McCaskill was for using the plane instead of the RV she’d been traveling through the state in.

It really isn’t hard to operate a plane at a loss.

Edited to add: @jtl was on the plane = email much earlier than I was.

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I will get bent out of shape over this the moment all the other senators have their private plane revenue questioned. She isn’t wrong. Private planes, even if leased out, often operate at a net loss for the owner. Leasing income is generally thought to reduce the amount of loss.

What McCaskill is saying is she and her husband had a lot of loss carryforwards. I don’t see anything reported that would lead me to question that claim.

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Thank you. I’m a little disheartened by the display of poor reading comprehension here today. Slow down, people. I know you are smart enough.

Because as Hillary Clinton can tell you, investigations based on farcical notions never cause problems for the person being investigated when there’s no wrongdoing.

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I find the “but she’s rich” nonsense very offensive. I went to High School with her. She was a Cheerleader, Prom Queen, popular, etc. I know the stereotype about girls like her but Claire was real and nice to everyone. She wasn’t stuck-up or full of herself and I don’t believe she has changed. As said by others, this is an attempt at making up stuff to try and hurt her, because the republican is weak. So they attack; doesn’t matter if it’s true, they just need enough idiots to believe it.

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Except, she didn’t break the rules.

Extremist wingnuts lied and she answered the lie with facts. Extremist wingnuts keep shouting.

How else does one react to false charges?

Actually, I did hear something the other day having to do with her family taxes, but will have to go back and find the source.

I believe her husband is a hedge fund manager of some sort and they file taxes separately. Perhaps this watchdog group is trying to manufacture a scandal based on her husband’s finances and muddy the waters just enough that it smears her, too?

Why sure! I think they should investigate the disposition of every penny, because R’s always conduct these investigations with perfect impartiality. Once all the facts are on the table and they see there was no wrongdoing, I’m sure they’ll close the hearings and apologize for the inconvenience.

Uranium One. Pizzagate.

Nothing ever has to be proven anymore in the new world of disinformation and partisanship. An accusation is enough to drag someone down into endless recriminations and years of smear campaigns that feed into the crazed narrative of the right.

Liars know they have the whole RWNJ empire to spread their propaganda, so they can make up anything salacious and ride it forever, with every talk show idiot adding their own home-grown embellishments.

I think that’s why Franken decided just to quit instead of fight it.

And snark is certainly appreciated here. Perhaps we should encourage the use of the \s tag.

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Agreed. TPM also needs to add an eyeroll emoji too.

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I certainly hope not. Franken has been vociferously fighting the right-wing personally since the 1990’s with his writing. Not really in his character to just give up. I suspect that his resignation had more to do with being persuaded by his colleagues that he would be a political liability for his caucus and constituents and he selflessly didn’t want to put everybody (including his family) through the wringer. If anything, I hope that he continues to call out the right-wing even more ferociously now that he is, unfortunately, no longer a public official.

Yes, I’m sure you’re right on that. So sad he was targeted.

I guess I was thinking that the ensuing absurdities and distraction of the baseless charges litigated in the media and resurrected daily by the RWNJ press would take all the oxygen out of his legitimate efforts to govern in the interest of the country.

I wish there were a better way to deflect the ratfucking that seems to be Republicans’ favorite political tactic.

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Anybody who knows anything about the economics of owning a small aircraft knows that she is highly likely speaking truth when she says that their costs of ownership exceeded any revenue from chartering it out. Anybody doing this is hoping, at best, to offset some portion of their fixed costs, before flying even one minute or one mile, of ownership.

Me too. I’m sure that Franken was targeted specifically because of his grilling of Sessions that led to his recusal in the Russia probe. I support the #Metoo movement but, crass jokes aside, I never really thought that the allegations towards Franken amounted to much of anything, let alone a reason for him to resign his Senate seat. While I don’t want to see our party leadership come to embrace candidates with past (and present) behaviors of somebody like Donald Trump, I feel that we need to take a more calculated and measured approach to handling allegations of impropriety by members of our Party and avoid being too eager to throw members overboard at the first sign of “trouble”. Republicans keep doing what they’re doing because they know it works and that Democrats will usually get rid of Republicans targets for them as long as they make enough noise. They have some Democrats practically ready to throw Nancy Pelosi overboard just because Republicans hate her so much. :-/

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Agree with everything you say. Man, and I was having a good day, but thinking about that whole fiasco bums me out all over again. Once Al saw that not only were the Republicans ratfucking him, but his own party was throwing him overboard, he really had no support to lean on. He was betrayed by his own party for being a raunchy comedian 10 years ago.

Sigh.

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