You know this for a fact? Howard Stern attended Donald Trump’s wedding to Melania. They are friends, or Howard Stern is one of Donald Trump’s many sycophants is probably more accurate. Howard Stern’s cable TV show was on MSG. So you think MSG, within hours, would make a copyright claim against Mother Jones, but Howard Stern, who is friends with Donald Trump absolutely would not? OK… Sounds like a hypothesis. And yeah, the copyright to Howard Stern’s show on MSG twenty years ago is absolutely comparable intellectual property to the Lennon-McCartney royalties library, I am sure.
Yes, definitely and any other show or music. You just don’t understand that these people who do talk shows and such are employed by large corporations. They do NOT have publishing rights, etc. This is how things work.
Plus, right now cable networks are looking for these Stern clips to play on shows and news. If on youtube, they can just post them. But if copyrighted, now they have to pay to use the clips. Last week no one would pay to play them, now they will. It’s that simple. So the lawyers might be on you tube searching for relevant clips, and anything they have rights on they are claiming. Now they are also old clips, maybe rights expired, who knows. So MSG might put MJ on notice, MJ pulls the clip, then the lawyers determine there are no longer rights to MSG, and they can repost.
Tell you what, post the links you say are problematic, I’d like to see for myself.
By the way, Trump once said Hillary would be an excellent President. So does that mean he really is trying to get her elected by acting like a jerk? No.
When things get viewed a lot on youtube, claims are made if people have copyrights on a particular clip when they get viewed a lot. Before he died, George Martin took the 3rd Ed Sullivan Beatles appearance, remastered the audio, and posted it on you tube. Awesome. Lots of people started to watch it, and a few weeks later, Sony actually pulled the clip off. The only thing it had to do with was that they want people to buy the DVD with the material on it. But if no one was watching the videos, Sony would not have even cared and would not have wasted the money on the lawyers. But it was marketable.
The only conspiracy involves revenue.
Howard Stern is in no way supporting Trump. He came out and said Trump supported the war on his show, why the hell would he do that if he was supporting Trump?? Serious question, why the hell would he say that? Wouldn’t he instead say Trump seemed wishy-washy on it?
Stern is promoting himself and loves that he is being mentioned in all this.
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ok ok ok
I went looking last night on MJ for the article and went back two pages from the front page and didnt find it. It was an article about Trump’s misogyny. It had 3 or maybe 4 Youtube clips of Trump on the Howard Stern probably TV show (do they video tape the radio show? I dont think they do but I could be wrong) bragging about his requirements for his short term and long term sexual partners. One of the clips was where he said he might stay with his current wife if she suffered a disfiguring car accident (a frequent hypothetical Howard Stern poses to guests and speculated about his then wife back when I could stomach him) as long as the breasts were intact. Total of about 3 and maybe four. Two pages back on Google or MJ or any other search is as far as I am going to go.
It was written by a young man. Could have been a hispanic last name, possibly. Someone on TPM comment board had posted a link to it and I clicked on the link and went to the article. All of the videos had the old TV after station sign off static screen saying that the clip was no longer available on Youtube because of a copyright issue or claim.
At the end the MJ article had embedded the Alicia Machado “workout” videom which was not from the Howard Stern show, the only one left in the article, and it was available. So, whoever owned the copyright for the workout video clip which is also suddenly extremely hot and just as in demand as any Howard Stern clips, did not make the claim that night within hours, but somebody made a quick claim on the 3 or 4 Stern show vids. I understand your argument about SONY and the Beatles Ed Sullivan tapes and the alternate take Beatle songs that used to be on Youtube and the entire movies that you used to be able to get on Youtube before Amazon and Netflix , Hulu, iTunes and everyone else decided to make it so everybody has to pay and pay.
I am sure Howard Stern loves the attention. I am aware he said that Trump told him he supported the Iraq War, there is an article right up here and you also linked or embedded a video of it in an earlier response. Last night Lawrence ODonnell had the author of the Vagina Monologues on the last segment of his show. She had a radio clip of Howard Stern bragging on air that during Trump’s wedding reception he pulled Stern aside and confided in him that " [vagina] was expensive." I wouldnt put it past Trump to ask his sycophant buddy to have the vids pulled especially since he is going all mental on this Machado and misogyny stuff. Maybe I am wrong. Ok. I bear you no ill will.
By the way, there is a video I am trying to find of the 1984 RNC where three dweebs come onto the Convention floor dressed in white overalls and boots with fire Extinguishers strapped to their backs doing a parody of the Ghost Busters song called Fritz Busters. I am convinced that the biggest dweeb of the three is Stephen Moore, now the self proclaimed Economics expert with a Masters Degree who is now advising Trump. I have searched for that clip and never found it but it did happen and I have a great non marketable skill of rarely forgetting a face.
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Good adjective for him, I also use “doofus”. He is in fact a complete buffoon who has been wrong on almost everything he has formed an opinion on.
To find that clip you reference you probably will need to watch the whole convention…but that might not be a fun thing to do…
Oh God please no. It was bad enough to watch Reagan be turned into some heroic figure during those years. I refused to watch Bill Maher last night when I saw he was on. I guess there are no trickle down economics proponents with doctorates.
no, you answered my question. you heard stuff decades ago, which enables you to pass judgment on that person permanently. got it.
Ha ha. “Decades ago” because of course Howard Stern has became a more decent less racist human being after 1995. Gotcha. Decades ago after listening to him on my morning commute and office radio for a period of years. And yes, that enables me to pass judgment on Howard Stern. The clip played on Lawrence ODonnell Friday night, you should listen to it. It was over a decade ago though.
I listen to him now. Which is precisely why I think your judgment is wrong. But you’re entitled to it.
Good for you. I saw and heard enough. Making fun of someone who was shot to death the morning after she was shot, was sufficient for me to make a judgment about a person’s character lack of taste,lack of empathy, and probable racism or at least his willingness to offend an entire ethnic group to get some cheap laughs from his Bros. But he is a nice guy now. I am sure he has stopped being a total DB on pay to listen Sirius Radio.
so making a joke about Selena’s death offended an entire ethnic group? interesting take.
so when someone makes a joke about a dead white guy, I guess you assume that that will offend all white people, too?
or is it just hispanics who react uniformly to things? I’m just trying to understand the contours of your crusade against racist statements and assumptions.
I am not on a crusade. You pay for the privilege of listening to Howard Stern. The examples I gave were true, but were only two of the most egregious of similar types of lapses in taste over the years it took me to decide I did not want to listen to his show any longer. In the case of the Selena “joke” was not a reaction or an off the cuff momentary lapse of judgment. It was a recorded gag, with her music and a machine gun soundtrack going simultaneously. And it was in extremely poor taste, given she had been murdered shortly before, and insensitive. Do you think I was the only Latino person in NYC or the country who found him to be an offensive asshole? I do not have to speak on behalf of an entire group. I also gave you the example of his gratuitous vulgar joke about Mayor Dinkins’ wife. Totally a propos of nothing. See, your problem is that Howard Stern has a long career and record of being offensive. Your defense of him seems to be that people can only judge him who have listened to him him every day for the past thirty years, or that someone who thinks he is a total DB is on some crusade.
no. my “defense of him” is that he isn’t a racist, as you claim. i never said he isn’t or wasn’t “offensive.” so i don’t have a “problem,” as you say.
you’re the one throwing out terms like “racist.” which, as i suggested, is strange, since you seem to be the one making blanket assumptions about an entire race of people, not Stern. is the selena example offensive? sure. is saying someone has a big ass offensive? sure. but neither is racist. words mean things, you know.
i also never said, or even suggested, that you are on a “crusade.” again, that’s YOUR word. all i’ve said is that howard stern has evolved over the decades, and in his 60’s, he is much gentler, and demonstrates a great deal of empathy, which is why he is is the best interviewer in pretty much any medium.
moreover, you seem dead set – in various posts – on some kind of stern-trump conspiracy to hide videos from the public. which is paranoid and absurd for any number of reasons, as has been pointed out to you, and not just by me.
stern has said openly that he is voting for Hillary, and that he’s supported her and been a fan of hers for years.
You said crusade not me.
He IS a racist. Just because he is a DB and is crass and has extremely poor taste doesnt mean he isnt or cant also be a racist. He is, I listened to him. for years. And I am not the only person in NYC who thinks he is a racist. The two examples I gave were not isolated incidents.
He has become gentler? If you say so. Demonstrates a great deal of empathy? If you say so. Has he ever apologized to the hundreds of people he said vile crap about? Because maybe that would show how greatly empathic he has become. He is voting for Hillary, he says on air? Wonderful. I thought the timing of the videos being posted and being made subject of a claim was extremely quick and worth noting. You are like the people who, when Breitbart died, were trying to make him into a martyr and into a Wm F. Buckley. Next you are going to tell me that Opie and Anthony became decent human beings and have begun to show great empathy to people.
yes, i am JUST like those people!!! and you’re right – i did use “crusade.” my bad.
and the two examples you gave had nothing to do with racism. saying a guy’s wife has a fat ass has nothing to do with racism. playing a machine gun soundtrack over a song by a slain artist also has nothing to do with race. again: WORDS. MEAN. THINGS.
that said, i am very sorry for the things that howard stern did to you. they were obviously awful, and you are clearly traumatized by it. i hope you recover and can find peace and happiness somewhere.
word of advice: next time you stumble upon a racist on the radio, you shouldn’t listen to them 5 days a week for years. people might start thinking YOU’RE a racist.
I’m an avid Stern listener. He is voting for Hillary. Has said it numerous times on air. I don’t always agree with Howard politically, but he’s on her side.
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You are the one demanding that I listen to him in order to be able to judge him, and requiring that I need to have listened to him within recent times because you claim that recently he stopped being a crass low class DB. And I did listen to him for a period of years on the Radio Station I spent most of my day playing. He IS a racist. Go listen to his Selena Gag. Its on Youtube still. See what he said about an entire group of people and their music even, since he is such a high culture human being. And insulting the wife of the first black mayor of NYC who had done or said nothing to merit his attention, ok yeah, totally non racially motivated. So to you he is a wonderful human being who is totally empathic. And kind. And gentle even. Too bad he has a record and you can Google all the wonderful empathic things he has done to employees and acquaintances over the years. .
you seem so upset.
but yeah, typically, if someone is going to pass judgment on someone else’s character, it seems like they should actually know what they’re talking about. you know, like do it from a contemporaneous standpoint, rather than what they said or did – or how you perceived those things – 20 years ago.
robert byrd was, until his dying day, a racist piece of shit. right? and so was george wallace. right?
if you think personalities, political views, philosophies are static, then you live a much more intellectually inflexible life than i do. i personally think that’s a stunted and, frankly, dishonest, way to view people and the world, but as i’ve said before, that’s your prerogative.
and for the record, yes i think howard stern is a gentle and kind soul. absolutely. 100%.
That would be a very bad idea. Much like all of Trump’s ideas.