Discussion: Here's Why One Black Activist Thinks Russian Trolls Sought Him Out

Yeah, deescalation sucks, no money shots…

I think you are absokutely right. I was scrolling down the comments hoping that someone would say exactly what you said. My guess is that the Russians/Trump campaign sliced-and-diced those videos and beamed them - with menacing music and commentary - to the white working class communities in the Appalachian parts of Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin etc. Voila. Working class voters make president the guy whose whole career was built on stiffng the working class.

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Just like Republicans…

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OT sorta: It’s probably just a coincidence that Dotard has just signed an Executive Order making it easier to call up retired military officers just as this is about to explode.

Plus, there’s that pesky Niger thing. Gearing up for the Mother of All Distractions?

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They are better at this shit than we are. That is because Putin has been in power for so long. Now, I believe we could catch up if DOTUS was in charge as long has Putin has been, but…

Well, probably the Russian fronts are also are able to work the algorithm so they get much more exposure on facebook, so they may get more legitimate likes as well as the bot ones. I imagine it’s like the early days of google, when some enterprises figured out how to get themselves to the top of search results; before long there’s a sort of feedback loop that boosts the ratings even higher.

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‘Why is Russia able to create fake Facebook pages that get more likes than we do?’ Maybe the Likes were from Russian bots!

The thing getting pushed in Oklahoma right now appears to be, I kid you not, Satanic ritual child abuse. I thought we were done with that shit twenty-five years ago.

(It’s really tempting to make an observation about there not being enough black people in certain areas to make race anxiety potent enough.)

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Sniffit does have it right. But in PA it’s more than the “Appalachian” parts. Up and down the I-80 & 81 corridors, outer ring suburbs of Philly and Pittsburgh, Lehigh Valley, more and more a commuter suburb of NYC _and new _ refugees - all Trump targets. For all the bullshit reasons they hear telling (white) folks they should live in fear, especially when Those People are seen as gaining power and influence. And look at the gerrymanders custom designed to create zones of white folk who will buy into the fear mongering -great for votes and fundraising.

POTY. Bravo!

Why is that not true…Lenin was exiled in Switzerland and was escorted back to Russia on a German train with German guards protecting him. That is according to Churchill…

Germany’s government did help Lenin return to Russia. He traveled by train across Germany to the Finland station. His travel was normal. He wasn’t in a “sealed train” like a virus - as later described in colorful propaganda and Churchil’s creative contributions to that myth

Maybe. Mostly the US is an easy target. It’s vulnerable through the same means already exploited domestically to promote discord and racist fear. During the cold war Russian propaganda highlighted the inequality, bigotry and injustices in the US.
This led to efforts in the US to at least appear to be making progress socially on issues of Civil Rights. It was impressive how quickly the rhetoric supporting equal rights and an open society was abandoned in the United States following the collapse of the Soviet Union.

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Remember that the old Soviet Union did exactly EXACTLY the same thing during the 50’s, 60’s and 70’s. They did what the could to support the radical 60’s in belief that it would cause a revolution- just like it did in Russia in 1917. Nothing Monarchs, dictators and generalissimos hate Hate more than social dissention. In a democracy- for the most part- dissention strengthens us. The Black civil rights, abortion rights, contraception rights, free speech, Medicare, women’s rights were all agitated for by the old Soviet Union in order to foster revolution ( in the armed sense) But America is much better because of most everything that happened in the 60’s. HOWEVER---- in today’s world we are said to be in a cold civil war. So maybe the Russians are finally on to something.

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I hate to bring up the whole Bernie thing because I want to move on, but all that “revolution” talk and both-sides-ism and “the DNC is hopelessly corrupt” business sounded like it came straight out of a Soviet wet dream.

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While I’m aware of how Lenin got back into Russia, of all the examples to choose from, he chose that one.

Now I’d be hard pressed to pick two or more examples that doesn’t have the hint of either foreign intervention or allowance, but I’d try (not sure if I’d succeed) to make sure that my first answer isn’t that one. .

Spot on, as always.

I am just speechless that he would think that this is okay on any level.

This intervention was probably not a one and done. These people and movements were not just being sponsored, they were being cultivated. Russia plays a long game.

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The activist stated that “subverting the American status quo may be a mutual objective for a hostile Russian operation and the U.S. protest movements striving for more equality and justice”

This is blather. This guy was manipulated by a Russian espionage operation that was hostile to not only the US status quo but also to his movement. The “signal boost” was to spread disinformation about his cause.

The Trumpists with their talk of getting rid of “establishment” Republicans and the dreaded “political correctness”, see itself as subverting the American status quo. Although in reality, this faux populist movement is controlled by plutocrats such as Robert Mercer and Peter Thiel.

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