Discussion: GOP Rep. Defends Trump For Blaming 'Both Sides' In Charlottesville

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It is sad for me to see a Jewish politician, in particular, defending the Presidentā€™s comments about both sides being responsible for the violence in Charlottesville. One group came there to advocate for white supremacy and hatred against other Americans . The other group came to protest against bigotry,hatred ,racism, and anti-semitism. Mr. Zeldin evidently did not pay attention to the history of the Nazi regime that murdered millions, including 6 million Jews. Or the history of the KKK that killed many,many African Americans and tried to reinstitute segregation of the races. Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. I,for one, do not want to the history of the Nazis or the KKK inflicting death and destruction on millions to be repeated.

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Hey bud, the MAJORITY of AMERICANS are antifa, anti-nazi, seeking unity rather than separatism!

Eat that!

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Thatā€™s why the Creator put those keys thereā€¦

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To be accurate, the day will come again when a candidateā€™s bio will include clearly defined allegiances to fascist and white supremacist beliefs. Through Reconstruction, the 1920s when many of these Confederate nostalgia monuments were constructed, and the 1950s and 1960s, many politicians and elected officials proudly included membership in the KKK and the Citizens Council in their bios.

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25,977, that is how many New Yorkers died in battle, of wounds, or in the prisoner of war camps of the people honored by the statue at the center of this and doesnā€™t count the roughly 27,000 who died of disease while on campaign. That is over 8 and a half 9/11ā€™s. I wonder if this was a clash between ISIS and al-Qaida sympethizers and counter-protestors over a statue of the 9/11 hijackers would he still be feeling so conflicted about the violence from ā€œboth sides.ā€

did you fly in on your broomstick? : )

and a question for the commentators: were the few women I saw in the pictures - were they the femi-nazis that pat buchanan was always talking about?

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How resistance to Trump is now being indicated as equal to white supremacy is scary. These guys must forget their blind resistance to Trump and the conservative movement against him. And Trump has given more partisan reasons than Obama ever did. They usually had to dig for those.

This is just very scary.

Here is some required reading for this ā€œrepresentativeā€ of the people.

Zelden wasnā€™t so supportive when Trump when after Mika and Joe.

(CNN)A Republican congressman who supported Donald Trump for president refused to defend him Thursday night after a pair of tweets led to strong criticism from both Democrats and Republicans that it was beneath the dignity of the office he holds. Rep. Lee Zeldin called the tweets ā€œuglyā€ and ā€œindefensible.ā€
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During an interview on CNNā€™s ā€œOutfront,ā€ Zeldin told Jim Sciutto, "Iā€™m not going to defend his tweet. It was ugly and I personally do hold the President of the United States to a higher standard."

This is quite a turnaround for old Rep. Zeldin.

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It has to be humiliating and enraging for him to know that NYC hates him, that the CEOs around the world are turning their backs on him, that the society he so craves approval from shuns him, and that world leaders mock and laugh at him.

Instead, heā€™s stuck returning to Bumblefuck, WV and Asscrack, PA and the like to find people willing to cheer him and fan his flames of hate. Heā€™s a sick, demented, racist and evil clown.

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Of course, in the past that happened, a lot. But 5 years ago to suggest it would happen anew would have been unthinkable. ā€œYou just donā€™t go thereā€ would have been a nearly universal reaction. A candidateā€™s chances at winning an election running on 1920s branding in terms of race would have been pegged at zero. Today Iā€™d posit there are some House districts running as a white supremacist would be a winning strategy. Certainly whatever prospects you had doing so have been heightened significantly due to Trumpā€™s presence. Right now there are millions of Republicans rallying to Trumpā€™s side (albeit mostly in private, among their own) because the mean old liberals and media are picking on him about Charlottesville. Theyā€™d gladly elect a Nazi if it served the purpose of sticking a thumb in his detractorā€™s eyes.

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The GOP is the party of personal responsibility, until they have to be personally responsible.

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Most telling comment of the day

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They seem to forget all the buses Koch brothers and Freedom Works supplied to bus in mostly retired seniors to protest the ACA and anything else their corporate overloads desired.There was an elderly woman who was interviewed at tea party protest in Utah and she said she was there because the bus ride was free. They provided the signs and paid for their meals. Sort of like a trip to the casino, it was something to do. She said they even provided the lawn chairs for them to sit in because most of them were in too poor condition to do much standing due to some excess weight.

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My dadā€™s 93 and on the cusp of having serious mobility issues. So these days heā€™ll agree to pretty much any excursion you suggest. I doubt heā€™d protest the ACAā€”heā€™s a lifelong D and not a dumb manā€”but I could see someone less aware saying what the hell, sure, Iā€™ll go.

ā€œAntifa bused in criminals with bats and pepper spray for the purpose of committing acts of violence targeting anyone who was part of the protest against Charlottesville bringing down the statue of Robert E. Lee . . . "

Finally, we get back to that old GOP standby excuse ā€“ the bused-in protesters. No mention was made of the fact that the neo-Nazis and Klan supporters that were marching in Charlottesville Friday night were practically all from out of state, and virtually 100% of them were carrying torches that they later used as weapons (just watch any of the video), but once the criticism of the counter-protesters began, the ā€œbused-in criminalā€ chants grew loud and hypocritical.

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ANd donā€™t forge jeff Beauregard sessions before he got promoted

We tried this past yearā€¦ goddammit, we tried. And weā€™ll keep trying.

I live here and weā€™re doing our best, there are Hillary supporters, I just attended an anti-bias picnic this weekend, and the retired firefighters / cops are really old. The houses are being purchased by young (relatively) newcomers like myself slowly but surely (my house was built and occupied by a firefighter/ builder for 40 years. Found an actual ā€œTrump Casinoā€ flyer from the 90s left behind up in the attic).

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